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Offline flight17

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JU-87G2...
« on: July 18, 2012, 06:23:25 PM »
Can we make it available at v bases? Already have the fh there and it's a dedicated tank killer.... So.... Might as well enable it there...

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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 06:25:17 PM »
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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 06:26:34 PM »
Errr... :noid

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2012, 06:38:22 PM »
Nah.  A front line army base is NOT going to have all the kit needed to fuel it, arm it, repair it, maintain it, and otherwise get it in the air.  The Storch was trucked around WITH the front line troops, and needed a suitcase worth of parts, etc.  It was meant for that.  The Stuka was not. 

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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2012, 06:53:54 PM »
Nah.  A front line army base is NOT going to have all the kit needed to fuel it, arm it, repair it, maintain it, and otherwise get it in the air.  The Storch was trucked around WITH the front line troops, and needed a suitcase worth of parts, etc.  It was meant for that.  The Stuka was not. 

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Then there is no point of having it... If u have to come from a airfield there are plenty of other planes that can do the same job better.

And we don't have moving lines we have fixed bases. BASES THAT ALSO HAVE FIXED HANGARS. It's got enough rounds for 12 kils max if you aren't facing heavy tanks. Introducing them to vbases is not going to change the gameplay any. If you don't want them to up,the kill the. Hangar like you have to do stay other base.
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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2012, 06:56:03 PM »
The Stuka isn't a STOL plane like the Storch, you'd probably end up crashing it on take off with the long roll out for take off out of a V base.

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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2012, 08:23:24 PM »
The Stuka isn't a STOL plane like the Storch, you'd probably end up crashing it on take off with the long roll out for take off out of a V base.

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Actually it pretty much was a STOL aircraft. The prototype was capable of taking off in about 800ft with a 250kg bomb using the 600hp Jumo 210 which was always said to be greatly underpowered with a Tow of 7300lbs. By the time they developed the G model, the engine had been changed multiple times and was now outputting over 1400hp. The frame itself had only gained About 2900lbs in empty weight(including guns but excluding ammo/bombs), to 7900lbs, over the A model, but it was powered by an engine putting out over twice the power.

So either way, the G model modestly loaded could take off in 800ft or less. It's not like we have the 1000kg bomb on it, which it did carry IRL.
And besides, there is plenty of room for it to take off within the current base's footprint.
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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2012, 08:34:18 PM »
+1 yes please.
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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2012, 08:43:17 PM »
Ack Ack I suggest you read Stuka pilot. Hans Rudel regularly landed to pick up downed crews.
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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2012, 09:02:08 PM »
Ack Ack I suggest you read Stuka pilot. Hans Rudel regularly landed to pick up downed crews.


I have read it and he didn't regularly do it.  I believe it did it at the most twice (been awhile since I've read his autobiography) and in one of those occasions he couldn't take off again and almost died in the process fleeing from Soviet soldiers.

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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2012, 09:28:07 PM »
No, no tank killer aircraft at vBases.
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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2012, 10:00:40 PM »
He did it so much Hitler personally ordered him not to.
He was credited with rescuing 6 crews and had one failed attempt due to mud caught in the wheel wells of his plane.
Sounds pretty regular to me.
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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2012, 10:46:31 PM »
Regardless of whether the war's best Stuka pilot was able to land off the tarmac, the game play consequences (to GVers) of putting tank killer AC at VBases would be horrendous.  

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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2012, 10:47:59 PM »
I think Wirbles and Ostis would have one hell of a fun time though. -1 but I doubt it's going to be a huge problem if it's ever enabled. Wirbles would tear them apart.

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Re: JU-87G2...
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2012, 07:59:07 AM »
This must be a response to the enemy tanks that sit at spawn but never come close enough to the base to actually attack it or be in danger from the field itself.

15 tanks spawn near a field but never reach the field.