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Offline Citabria

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should me410 have removable rear guns?
« on: July 20, 2012, 12:18:34 PM »
seems like some me410s removed the barbettes and all the rear gun equipment.

was this done to save weight?

would removing all the rear gun equipment make the 410 significantly lighter? (500-1000lbs?)

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Offline Karnak

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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2012, 12:19:27 PM »
I would be surprised if the setup weighs less than 2000lbs.
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 01:18:05 PM »
Sounds like a field mod to me.  That would open an ungodly slippery slope.

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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2012, 01:31:46 PM »
I would like to fly this aircraft in fighter mode.
Removing the barbettes should help a lot in a turnfight. Im curious how many are using the 13mms with success... i would rather live withouth them.
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2012, 01:34:45 PM »
Quote from: Debrody on July 20, 2012, 01:31:46 PM
I would like to fly this aircraft in fighter mode.
Removing the barbettes should help a lot in a turnfight. Im curious how many are using the 13mms with success... i would rather live withouth them.

None.

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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 01:39:12 PM »
Quote from: Rob52240 on July 20, 2012, 01:34:45 PM
None.


One guy said he got an La-7 with them.  That is the only success I've heard.
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2012, 01:51:48 PM »
I got HOtard in his LA7 yesterday with them, and an LA the day the plane came out. If they park at a distance on your dead 6 you can pepper them. They are actually useful, unlike the 110 guns.
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2012, 01:53:35 PM »
+1 to make removable
« Last Edit: July 20, 2012, 02:03:45 PM by Tracerfi »
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2012, 01:55:47 PM »
Also keep in mind that IIRC they can point straight up, I'd like to get under a set of lancasters and bring them down with the rear guns. That would be fun.
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2012, 02:06:37 PM »
Also keep in mind that removing 1,000+ pounds of weight from the far rear of the airplane will effect the CG in a negative way.
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2012, 02:15:34 PM »
Quote from: Tupac on July 20, 2012, 02:06:37 PM
Also keep in mind that removing 1,000+ pounds of weight from the far rear of the airplane will effect the CG in a negative way.
Look, this pane feels butt-heavy. Stalls like that, at least. Removing 1000+ pounds from behind the wing wouldnt only take effect as improving the turn rate, but would greatly and positively influence the overall stability and post-stall characteristics too. And if something, this aircraft could really use some less weight in the rear.

Btw HOtard is...  just a hotard  :lol
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2012, 02:18:32 PM »
Quote from: Debrody on July 20, 2012, 02:15:34 PM
Look, this pane feels butt-heavy. Stalls like that, at least. Removing 1000+ pounds from behind the wing wouldnt only take effect as improving the turn rate, but positively influencing the overall stability and post-stall characteristics too. And if something, this aircraft could really use some less weight in the rear.

A forward CG increases stall speed, increases stability, increases turn radius. I think the CG is ok the way it is.
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2012, 02:19:43 PM »
A forward CG also decreases top speed
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2012, 02:20:45 PM »
I see, allright...  see, my little brain is just stuck with nose-heavy 109s and cant deal with anything else haha
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Re: should me410 have removable rear guns?
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 02:21:27 PM »
So now we're trying to make it better then it really is?

Should have researched before you voted.  When the Luftwaffe pulled it that should have been a hint.

HTC did their research as always and have given this aircraft to the winners of the voting.

The majority got what they wanted.  NEXT!  :x
« Last Edit: July 20, 2012, 02:26:11 PM by Hajo »
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