Author Topic: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside  (Read 699 times)

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« on: July 26, 2012, 04:51:20 PM »
I would like quad 20mm and single 37mm AA batteries placed around the countryside so that there is some disincentive to fly at extremely low altitudes.  Right now all the disincentive for base taking groups is focused on high altitude attacks.  This wouldn't stop low altitude surprise attacks, but if the guns are common enough it might cause some losses during the sneak flight.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline BigKev03

  • Copper Member
  • **
  • Posts: 256
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2012, 06:25:06 PM »
Didn't we use to or still have the trains with the guns on them that would shoot at you if you came to close?  I remember beign shot down alot by them but its been a while since I've even seen one.  I can't remember if the trains were just near strats or not.

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23939
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2012, 06:37:42 PM »
I can't remember if the trains were just near strats or not.

Trains resupplied the factories and still do.

You just don't get near them anymore ;)
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

In November 2025, Lusche will return for a 20th anniversary tour. Get your tickets now!

Offline TDeacon

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1553
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2012, 06:37:51 PM »
If your wish comes true, it would be just my luck that I would try to ditch my damaged plane (in an attempt to avoid death) by one of your single batteries.  I have enough difficulty with the trees...  :frown:

MH

Offline caldera

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6487
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2012, 07:06:39 PM »
Imagine getting in a great fight down near the deck and getting clobbered by an A.I. gun that just happens to be there.  Kind of like puffy hits from a CV group you can't even see.
+1 on the intent of the wish, but it wouldn't really deter much of an NOE horde (a bunch of low aircraft could all target the gun together and neutralize it pretty easily) but could ruin a good fight in the middle of no-man's land.  Would rather have more guns on airfields to shred vulchers.
Snuggie - voted "Sexiest Man Alive" for the entire Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere!

Offline Ack-Ack

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 25260
      • FlameWarriors
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2012, 07:40:46 PM »
In AW some of the mountain peaks had AAA on them.

ack-ack
"If Jesus came back as an airplane, he would be a P-38." - WW2 P-38 pilot
Elite Top Aces +1 Mexican Official Squadron Song

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7303
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2012, 09:47:30 PM »
I shoot trains all the time.

I like the idea of the original poster but would like to add some random manned ack.

Offline titanic3

  • Persona Non Grata
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4235
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2012, 10:49:28 PM »
No, if you want to deter NOE raids, add more radar towers. We already have those barns with a tower next to them as a terrain decoration. Why not make them actually work for the country that controls the most base in that sector?

Half the range of field radar with a longer update time but it will detect everything at all alt including below 65 feet.

Forces fights, doesn't hurt anyone, and the model is already there. If the tards that want to NOE a base into oblivion want to achieve their goal, then all they have to do is send out 1/60 of their mission to go and look for the towers.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

semp

Offline icepac

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7303
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2012, 09:05:10 AM »
I believe any ack has to be tied to a base or other large asset.

Offline Tracerfi

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1938
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2012, 09:21:17 AM »
In WWII they did have AA guns hidden around bases right?
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 09:39:16 AM by Tracerfi »
You cannot beat savages by becoming one.

He who must not be named

Offline R 105

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 978
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2012, 09:45:24 AM »
 How about flak towers? Even today in Berlin and other German cities you still see the ruins of flak towers. I think there are flak towers in the city on our maps now. I never fly to the city so I could be wrong. But flak towers on flight paths to bases could put a damper on low level base taking missions. 

Offline ImADot

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6215
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2012, 09:54:50 AM »
Why? Just because some people prefer to spend 10 minutes climbing to the thin air? I'd rather spend that time in a fight, and prefer to not have to climb over 12k or so...even then I'm usually 5k below everyone else and have to bait them to come down. So I like the low-alt base-take attempts and fighting amongst the trees and hills.

Besides, anyone can "fight" with 20,000' of air under them. It takes skill and control to fight when there's 5,000' or less under you, because you need to consider the ground and other obstacles as well as your foe - and maneuver your plane into a favorable firing position.  ;)
My Current Rig:
GigaByte GA-X99-UD4 Mobo w/ 16Gb RAM
Intel i7 5820k, Win7 64-bit
NVidia GTX 970 4Gb ACX 2.0
Track IR, CH Fighterstick, CH Pro Throttle, CH Pro Pedals

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23939
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2012, 10:06:14 AM »
Besides, anyone can "fight" with 20,000' of air under them. It takes skill and control to fight when there's 5,000' or less under you

It's exactly the other way around. At high altitudes the usable performace envelope is getting smaller and smaller, the room between compression and stall gets smaller and smaller...  you gotta use the brain more than the muscles up there. :)
More flying, less airquake'n...  :P
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

In November 2025, Lusche will return for a 20th anniversary tour. Get your tickets now!

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23048
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2012, 10:11:25 AM »
I withdraw the suggestion.  I posted in a moment of pique at all the below radar base sneaking.  The effect on low altitude furballs would be unacceptable in my opinion.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Lusche

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23939
      • Last.FM Profile
Re: Light AA guns to be placed around the countryside
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2012, 10:12:24 AM »
I was already wondering...  ;)
Steam: DrKalv
E:D Snailman

In November 2025, Lusche will return for a 20th anniversary tour. Get your tickets now!