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Offline WING47

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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2012, 07:53:32 PM »
Quote from: Tracerfi on July 28, 2012, 03:52:09 PM
it says it entered service in 1945 so how did it not exist
Il2 1946 is not a source!!!!!
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2012, 08:19:47 PM »
OK, so:


1) neither of your links work

2) your links are incorrect

3) it was never built, and so does not meet the paramaters for addition

4) the related aircraft is post war, and so does not meet the paramaters for addition

5) you're being stupid
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2012, 09:01:51 PM »
Quote from: Tank-Ace on July 29, 2012, 08:19:47 PM
OK, so:



5) you're being stupid
Must you be a turd
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2012, 09:04:14 PM »
Quote from: Tracerfi on July 29, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
Must you be a turd

must you constantly make stupid posts?

the answer to both questions seems to be 'yes'
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2012, 11:28:11 PM »
Just because you see something in print.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOTDn2A7hcY


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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2012, 05:18:52 AM »
moin

maybe will will find out more in 2015.

we have done some reserches at ouer baraks were kurt tank did have his office for Focke Wulf during the war and to some eyewitness tolds us that there was an aircraft like the ta183 in the hangar and has done some flight testing. but the brits took everthing after the war and the papers are still secret :-/.
we hope thay get open in 2015.

cu christian
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2012, 07:08:57 AM »
I shake my head at this thread.
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2012, 09:47:19 AM »
 The Mig-15 looks suspiciously like the FW Ta-183. Now you don't think the Russians ran off with Kurt Tank's design for a jet fighter do you? Kind of like the German MP-44 and the AK-47 rifles.
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2012, 09:56:24 AM »
Quote from: R 105 on July 30, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
The Mig-15 looks suspiciously like the FW Ta-183. Now you don't think the Russians ran off with Kurt Tank's design for a jet fighter do you? Kind of like the German MP-44 and the AK-47 rifles.
No, in both cases the Russians built their own.  Contrary to some people's beliefs, Russians and Japanese people aren't stupid and incapable of creating their own successful designs.
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2012, 11:23:34 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 30, 2012, 09:56:24 AM
No, in both cases the Russians built their own.  Contrary to some people's beliefs, Russians and Japanese people aren't stupid and incapable of creating their own successful designs.

Yes, that Tu-4 was very unique.     



That looks like a B29, those Americans copied another great Russian design!   :rofl

(sorry Karnak, you left yourself open to that one)
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2012, 11:35:16 AM »
Quote from: Delirium on July 30, 2012, 11:23:34 AM
Yes, that Tu-4 was very unique.     

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That looks like a B29, those Americans copied another great Russian design!   :rofl

(sorry Karnak, you left yourself open to that one)

They never claimed otherwise, and it is an exact copy.  The MiG-15 sorta looks like a Ta183 so people claim it is a copy.  See the difference?
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2012, 11:41:09 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on July 30, 2012, 11:35:16 AM
They never claimed otherwise, and it is an exact copy.  The MiG-15 sorta looks like a Ta183 so people claim it is a copy.  See the difference?

I never said the MiG15 was a copy, I was just picking on you for your comment that the Russians weren't incapable of building their own designs.

If anything, I feel the F86 benefited more from the Me262 (and other German ideas, like the leading edge wing slats) than the Russian designs did at that time. Then again, the Russians really benefited from the British jet engine that was given to them for the MiG15, which is a decision I never understood.
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2012, 12:03:58 PM »
Quote from: Delirium on July 30, 2012, 11:41:09 AM
I never said the MiG15 was a copy, I was just picking on you for your comment that the Russians weren't incapable of building their own designs.

If anything, I feel the F86 benefited more from the Me262 (and other German ideas, like the leading edge wing slats) than the Russian designs did at that time. Then again, the Russians really benefited from the British jet engine that was given to them for the MiG15, which is a decision I never understood.
The UK was trying to be friendly and demonstrate good will and such.  The USSR took the engine and copied it.
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2012, 12:59:05 PM »
After Churchill made that Iron Curtain speech, it was incredibly foolish.
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Re: Fock wolf Ta 183
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2012, 01:07:11 PM »
Quote from: R 105 on July 30, 2012, 09:47:19 AM
The Mig-15 looks suspiciously like the FW Ta-183. Now you don't think the Russians ran off with Kurt Tank's design for a jet fighter do you? Kind of like the German MP-44 and the AK-47 rifles.

Not for the MiG-15.

Maybe for the MiG-9...


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