Chick-fil-A for lunch today

[Shuffler]

I choose not to eat there.  He absolutely has a right to his beliefs and can choose how to run his business, up to and including donating money to anti-gay groups.  That being said, his consequences for those actions is that I, and many others, choose not to support that business anymore.

Free commerce, first amendment rights at their best both ways.  Carry On.

BTW, how is this thread still open!?

That's great.... thanks.

It's still going to be really crowded though.  There was a huge line today at the one down the street.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

I imagine the legality of it varies from state to state or city to city.

Note that these cities weren't threatening to shut down existing Chick Fil-As over this, as that would be clearly illegal.

So is denying a business permits and licenses purely over religious beliefs and speaking to those. You fail to realize that Dan Cathy and Chick-fil-A do not discriminate against any group. They pass any and all statutes, local, state, and federal,  regarding their treatment of employers and patrons. As such, there is absolutely no legal standing for denying them any license or permit.

Refusing to license or permit a restaurant for a business location zoned for the operation of such businesses, providing that restaurant does not violate any law, or zoning statute, without being able to show legal cause to do so, is the same as trying to shut down an existing location.

The legal counsel of the political entities of the various cities have already advised their clients that they are in fact violating not only their own laws and policies, but also the Constitution of the United States of America, and that they have no legal standing upon which to even attempt to do so.

[guncrasher]

wow RPM, if you really believe that verse and try to live by it then try applying it to Chick-fil-A and it's CEO. For the record, I believe the Bible and agree 100% with Dan Cathy, but that's not why I went to Chick-Fil-A today. I went to support his RIGHT to voice his beliefs.

Lambo

Lambo

and yet you question somebody else's right to express.


semp

[rogwar]

and yet you question somebody else's right to express.


semp

I don't believe anybody in this thread has said that gay marriage proponents cannot voice their ideas. I also don't believe anyone has questioned their rights to do so.

[TwinBoom]

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neigh
bors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

[coombz]

For the record, I believe the Bible

so what you want put on the record is that you are a clueless idiot and anything you say should be disregarded as the ramblings of a mental incompetent?

roger

[lambo31]

and yet you question somebody else's right to express.


semp

Show me where I did that and I'll give my defense. Again, please don't put words in my mouth.

Lambo

[lambo31]

so what you want put on the record is that you are a clueless idiot and anything you say should be disregarded as the ramblings of a mental incompetent?

roger

Can you not have a conversation regarding some one else's beliefs that might be different than yours without attacking them?  And I'm the idiot?  lol

Lambo

[coombz]

I have no problem conversing with someone of different opinions or beliefs

But when someone 'believes in the Bible' (your own words) they are basically admitting to a level of intelligence which makes them completely worthless when it comes to any kind of rational or logical discussion

[caldera]

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neigh
bors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

"Let the hate flow through you."   -Palpatine, Emperor

Tolerance is something to be preached but not practiced in your case.  You would have fit in well in Germany, circa 1933.  They loved to ostracize non-compliance too.

[lambo31]

I have no problem conversing with someone of different opinions or beliefs

But when someone 'believes in the Bible' (your own words) they are basically admitting to a level of intelligence which makes them completely worthless when it comes to any kind of rational or logical discussion

I see. It's true, I do believe the Bible. If I am an idiot and it's in vain then what have I lost when I die?  You might have an ill opinion of me for it, and that's ok. But know that if you, or any one else for that matter, need anything of me and if I can give it it's yours. Have a good one.

Lambo

[coombz]

I see. It's true, I do believe the Bible. If I am an idiot and it's in vain then what have I lost when I die?  You might have an ill opinion of me for it, and that's ok. But know that if you, or any one else for that matter, need anything of me and if I can give it it's yours. Have a good one.

Lambo

I need you to admit that the Earth is more than 6000 years old

If you can do that for me I will apologize sincerely for being a d! ck

[lambo31]

I need you to admit that the Earth is more than 6000 years old

If you can do that for me I will apologize sincerely for being a d! ck

LOL. No, I will not. I will stand on the authority of the Bible.


Lambo

[coombz]

no further questions your honour

[BoilerDown]

I read the Holy Bible every day, do you?

I most certainly do not.  I'm more of a read it once then let it collect dust type.  As for that book in particular, its long and boring, and I prefer non-fiction most of the time.  With exceptions for things like LotR of course.

Mayors of Boston and Chicago.

Wasn't there recently a thing in New York City with a Mosque?  As I recall, First Amendment rights really were trampled there, except people were on the opposite sides.  I imagine an extremely large percentage of the CFA-ers who go to defend the 1st Amendment are probably hypocrites.