Chick-fil-A for lunch today

[SEraider]

it is funny but they were discussing this same thing at work today.  and some guy said he went to chick-fill-a to support them as he said the bible made it clear that gays are sinners and it was against his beliefs.  and looked at him and asked him if he knew what the bible says about adulterers and what the appropriate punishment is.  he lives with his girlfriend, which I also do, and the bible clearly says that sex outside of marriage is a sin. and it also clearly states the punishment for it. I asked him what he thought of it, he said it wasnt the same thing as things have changed.

I dont know if this gay marriage thing is right or wrong, not for me to decide.  but I find it hypocritical for some to use the bible as an excuse while at the same time breaking every commandment written in the bible.


semp

A sin is a sin right?  I agree with that and I happen to be a Christian.   In some ways, stealing or another sin is repulsive to me too.

What gays do has a "yuck" factor and that leads to the extra discrimination and frown. 

[Reaper90]

That's pretty stupid since for one it's based on the product they sell and the other it's based on opinion of the owners.

Not even close to being the same thing.

A better analogy would be a bible belt town banning a hamburger stand because the owners are atheists and support atheist groups.

Thank you, jimson. To compare singling out a business because you don't agree with the owner's beliefs to banning all of a certain type of business because of what type of businesses they are.... is just stupid.

A STUPID comparison.

Banning certain types of businesses in certain areas, based on a set of community standards, OK. Withholding permits from one business because you don't like the the owner's religion, while allowing his competitors permits? ILLEGAL. Even the mayor of Boston knew it, that's why he backed off and admitted that he had no legal grounds to even attempt to do that.

Protest all you want if you don't like the guy. I have no problem with that, that's your right as an American. Boycott his business, take your money elsewhere. More power to ya.

I don't agree with Cathy's beliefs..... But I can tell you now that this crap has happened, we'll be eatin his chicken sammiches at least once a week. Rode by the one here in town earlier today.. place was packed. I'm not sure that they're not still setting records.

[RTHolmes]

What gays do has a "yuck" factor and that leads to the extra discrimination and frown.

what some straight couples do is yuck. what old couples or fat couples do is also yuck. should we stop old people or fat people marrying?

... yes we should! and everybody else in fact. remove the legal status of marriage, it has no purpose in the C21st. and it leads to this kind of nonsense.

[Reaper90]

Agreed John. Government should only recognize civil unions, all of them, whether they be between man and woman, man and man, woman and woman, man and television, woman and shoes, etc etc etc. OK, just kidding about the TV and shoes..... but a legal agreement, with all the rights and advantages.

Marriage is a religious thing, and not owned by Christianity as there were marriages being performed by religious groups for thousands of years before Christianity was ever thought of... so don't give me that "the bible says" stuff.

Keep the marriage in the church, temple, mosque, grass hut, etc. Civil unions only concern the government, and they're at the courthouse.

That'd solve a lot of problems.

[Jayhawk]

So a couple mayors come stick their foot in their mouth and people scream about religious persecution?

[Reaper90]

So a couple mayors come stick their foot in their mouth and people scream about religious persecution?

I despise government doing anything like that, so, yeh.

Rights are rights.

[Jayhawk]

I despise government doing anything like that, so, yeh.

Rights are rights.

Except they didn't actually DO anything. However, governments have actually passed legislature that is discriminatory towards homosexuals based solely on religious principles.  I despise that!

[Bodhi]

Except they didn't actually DO anything. However, governments have actually passed legislature that is discriminatory towards homosexuals based solely on religious principles.  I despise that!

What discriminatory measures are you referring to?

[Jayhawk]

What discriminatory measures are you referring to?

State bans restricting marriage between one man and one women. 

[SEraider]

what some straight couples do is yuck. what old couples or fat couples do is also yuck. should we stop old people or fat people marrying?

... yes we should! and everybody else in fact. remove the legal status of marriage, it has no purpose in the C21st. and it leads to this kind of nonsense.

Straight couples do is not yucky, it's acceptable in public.  What gays want to do is yucky, especially in public and I don't want to have my kids subjected to repulsive behavior.

What you state is New-Age gobly goo.

[jimson]

So a couple mayors come stick their foot in their mouth and people scream about religious persecution?

The problem is that no Mayor should ever think for a moment that it would be appropriate to target someone's business over their personal political views. That's how screwed up this country has gotten.

This should have never gotten to this point anyway.

Dan Cathey didn't call a press conference to make this big anti gay announcement. It was lifted from an interview with a religious radio station. It was the media who decided to grab it and turn it into a national issue.

This next comment may get me in trouble here, but you notice how no one is targeting any Muslim owned businesses? You would think that as many Muslims believe it is appropriate to put homosexuals to death that there are probably interviews from Muslim media sources where someone has said at least something as controversial as being opposed to gay marriage, but the media isn't looking for those stories is it?

No it's only open season on one particular religious group.

This is not a civil rights issue. Marriage of any sort is not a constitutional right. It is regulated by the states and is a sacrament in many religions.


The comments below have some real merit.

remove the legal status of marriage, it has no purpose in the C21st. and it leads to this kind of nonsense.

Agreed John. Government should only recognize civil unions, all of them, whether they be between man and woman, man and man, woman and woman, man and television, woman and shoes, etc etc etc. OK, just kidding about the TV and shoes..... but a legal agreement, with all the rights and advantages.

Marriage is a religious thing, and not owned by Christianity as there were marriages being performed by religious groups for thousands of years before Christianity was ever thought of... so don't give me that "the bible says" stuff.

Keep the marriage in the church, temple, mosque, grass hut, etc. Civil unions only concern the government, and they're at the courthouse.

That'd solve a lot of problems.

[Delirium]

Also, this is Sparta.


Sorry, but this thread needs levity.

No kidding....

Which side would I anger if I had sex with the chicken? What if it was just sex with the chicken sandwich, is that more agreeable?

[cactuskooler]

No kidding....

Which side would I anger if I had sex with the chicken? What if it was just sex with the chicken sandwich, is that more agreeable?

What an absurd question.  Obviously it depends entirely on whether the chicken is male or female.  Gender no longer applies when in sandwich form.

[MarineUS]

What an absurd question.  Obviously it depends entirely on whether the chicken is male or female.  Gender no longer applies when in sandwich form.

But it's a Chicken so it's female. >.>

[guncrasher]

Straight couples do is not yucky, it's acceptable in public.  What gays want to do is yucky, especially in public and I don't want to have my kids subjected to repulsive behavior.

What you state is New-Age gobly goo.

when you were younger did you ever make out in public?  do you think that was acceptable for kids to watch?  I see some really freaky stuff done by straight guys and gals in public that I didnt want my children to watch when they were kids.  but there was never a public outcry about it.  gays/lesbians do not do anything different than what we straight people do in public.

I believe that we all should have the right to be equal as guaranteed by the constitution.  when it comes to yucky stuff it's different from person to person.  some straight people will do stuff that other straight people will consider yucky and yet no public outcry about it.  after all what is really the definition of yucky when it comes to a straight person?


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