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New Engine design...
« on: August 02, 2012, 07:03:11 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73eBhTLP0Cc    :rock I hope I didn't already post this...  :banana:
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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2012, 09:21:36 PM »
I don't see how it would improve efficiency up to 50%, displacement is displacement. However, I can see a major cost savings in parts and size, but an ignition miss may be a bit ruff. A good power plant for a hybrid car.

The guy says the engine has "fundamentally better architecture." Maybe the magic is in shortening the piston stroke and lowering its maximum velocity (near mid stroke) vs. a double only piston setup?
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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2012, 10:52:43 PM »
I don't see how it would improve efficiency up to 50%, displacement is displacement. However, I can see a major cost savings in parts and size, but an ignition miss may be a bit ruff. A good power plant for a hybrid car.

The guy says the engine has "fundamentally better architecture." Maybe the magic is in shortening the piston stroke and lowering its maximum velocity (near mid stroke) vs. a double only piston setup?
The "magic" is that you moving two pistons per ignition versus one. So in theory you got power of two cylinders in one.
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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2012, 09:11:52 AM »
I see something that will beat itself to death in short order.

It might work for a slow speed diesel like the napier deltic.

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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2012, 11:50:04 AM »
just marking so i can watch the vid at home tonight
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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2012, 03:03:25 PM »
IcePac- "I see something that will beat itself to death in short order. It might work for a slow speed diesel like the napier deltic."

The trick is he's getting long stoke torque with 2 short stroke pistons...short stroke pistons allow higher velocity, long stroke power equals increased torque & better fuel economy because the fuel has enough stoke to completely burn., the loss of power related to inertia potential of a true Long Stroke is overcome in 2 different directions of short stroke, also lateral forces are more harmonious due to truly opposing forces which I believe is an improvement over the Subaru/VW designs. I bet the harmonics will be greatly improved...I bet it's a winner...guess we'll see.  :salute
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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2012, 03:08:55 PM »
Reminds me of the commercial I keep seeing with the car "with the world's first horizontal boxer engine". Looks nice.
Like, ya know, when that thing that makes you move, it has pistons and things, When your thingamajigy is providing power, you do not hear other peoples thingamajig when they are providing power.

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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2012, 05:58:33 PM »
That's a toyota with a subaru engine.

About time toyota had a rear drive small car again.

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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2012, 06:00:46 PM »
That's a toyota with a subaru engine.

About time toyota had a rear drive small car again.

 with new toyota fuel injection....
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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 06:17:46 PM »
That's a toyota with a subaru engine.

About time toyota had a rear drive small car again.
my favorite thing about that commercial is that they say "rear wheel drive driving is back!". yet to those of us that like to go fast, it never really went anywhere.
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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2012, 06:24:33 PM »
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Reminds me of the commercial I keep seeing with the car "with the world's first horizontal boxer engine"

The Subaru?  Ya, I see that alot lately, and keep looking outside at my Porsche and wondering....wth?  :)
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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2012, 06:24:40 PM »
so they have a higher up from gm....that's a bad thing. at least they offset it with a higher up from ford. that's a good thing.  :devil and he's from volkswagen.

 that all said, does he have a working model, or just the computer thing?
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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2012, 06:52:07 PM »
Cap's gone nuclear!  :O


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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2012, 06:57:30 PM »
Cap's gone nuclear!  :O



maybe that's why all my dam hair's falling out!! :devil
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Re: New Engine design...
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2012, 09:03:20 AM »
The Subaru?  Ya, I see that alot lately, and keep looking outside at my Porsche and wondering....wth?  :)

Yeah....porsche would never stoop to using an audi engine or a mercedes transmission or a volkswagen engine or a volkswagen unibody.

Back to the ecomotor.....

What they have achieved is a two cylinder engine that requires 6 piston rods and 4 pistons instead of 2 piston rods and 2 pistons along with the associated drag required to actuate them.

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