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Offline Karnak

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What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« on: August 04, 2012, 06:36:02 PM »
I'm going to do something I haven't done in a decade, if I ever did.  I'm going to post a request for the three aircraft that I most want for myself with no consideration of what is good for the game or most bang for the buck.

#1: P-61B Black Widow.  I make no pretenses about this fighter being anything other that LWA fun.  It is just really a neat aircraft.  A huge, remarkably maneuverable, heavily armed and, admittedly, slow fighter.  It could also carry quite a few pounds of bombs.  It would be, perhaps, like an A-26 that could actually dogfight.  I think this would just be a lot of fun to play with.

#2: J2M3 and J2M5 Raiden 'Jack'.  Though produced in low numbers the Jack eschewed the normal Japanese focus on maneuverability in favor of good climb and speed performance.  Mitsubishi got the long, aerodynamic cowl over a radial engine to work where Focke-Wulf failed with the Fw190.  In post war flight tests American test pilots praised the handling of the Jack, being far more impressed with it than its Japanese pilots were.  Oh yeah, it has Fowler flaps like the P-38s, Ki-84 and N1K2-J as well.

#3: H8K2 'Emily':  Big azzed flying boat with a moderate bomb load, lots of armor, five 20mm cannons in turrets and good performance.  Oh yeah, lots of fuel.  Want to fly for 12 hours straight in AH (Fuel burn 2.0)?  Emily can give you that time.  This is the flying boat that would actually get used in significant numbers.  Heck, the Japanese even used it to bomb with in small formations.


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Offline RTHolmes

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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2012, 06:38:52 PM »
youre right and probably quite smart.


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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2012, 11:03:24 PM »
I also wish for the j2m.

Back when warbirds brought it out, it was a brick and I enjoyed flying it because nobody else did and it was fast.

Then they changed the CoFL of the arena and it became uber in all areas and just wasn't the same.


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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2012, 08:39:35 AM »
 Karnak has been adbucted by alians,and this must be his animatronic replacement  :noid
 


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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2012, 09:02:41 AM »
youre right and probably quite smart.


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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2012, 09:15:29 AM »
I would give all three a thumbs up for inclusion. :aok
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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2012, 09:19:44 AM »
+1 karnak love the flying boat concept :) but if we get that then we need the catalina as well lol
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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2012, 10:37:59 AM »
+1 karnak love the flying boat concept :) but if we get that then we need the catalina as well lol

Not so fast. The Catalina wasn't used to bomb many land targets and instead carried charges and anti-submarine capabilities. It was also used much more for reconnaissance. The last thing this game needs (and this was before I gave up my stick, so I don't know if it is still the same) is another American craft just cuz it'd balance things out. The Japanese in the game needed some additions back then, and I don't think HTC could add 6 or so Japanese craft in the year I've been gone (A6M3 anyone  :D ).

While you could make an argument for the Consolidated Catalina due to its anti-ship capabilities, is that not something the H8K2 could do???

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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2012, 11:18:30 AM »
H8K2 could carry two torpedoes.  Bombwise it carried eight 250kg bombs.  They had plans for two 1600kg bombs but that was never used apparently.  It would probably feel a bit odd to be doing a torpedo run in a large four engined airplane, but what the heck.

Performancewise the H8K2 was vastly better than the PBY-5, being more than 100mph faster and having much better climbing ability.

Guns and armor also favor the H8K2 with five 20mm cannon, three to five 7.7mm machine guns (including light ventral coverage with angles almost straight down).  For protection it had a fully protected fuel system as well as armor for the engines and each crew position, very well protected for a Japanese airplane.
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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2012, 11:48:02 AM »



Now thats just big sexy right there  :O


Double +1 on both the J2M and the H8K  :pray

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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2012, 12:20:29 PM »
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Now thats just big sexy right there  :O


Double +1 on both the J2M and the H8K  :pray
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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2012, 12:25:42 PM »
I can imagine dogfighting P-61s would cause some whines.  

+100 on #2 and #3 though.

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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2012, 01:27:01 PM »
Was the H8K a flying fuel tank like the Betty is?
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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2012, 01:27:56 PM »
Was the H8K a flying fuel tank like the Betty is?
I THINK SO

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Re: What Karnak really, secretly wishes for...
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2012, 01:28:43 PM »
Was the H8K a flying fuel tank like the Betty is?

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