Author Topic: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.  (Read 1353 times)

Offline Pollock

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Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« on: August 08, 2012, 07:34:24 PM »
For those of us using the throttle having single command button mapping would be great.

This would make full use of all the cool toggle switches and levers on the throttle examples:

 engine on, engine off, doors open, doors close, landing gear up, landing gear down.

 While we are at it how about adding button mapping for flap controls example:

flaps fully up, flaps 25%, flaps down 50%, flaps down 75%, flaps down 100%.

With these examples it would provide button/switch mapping for virtually everything even common dot commands.

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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2012, 07:48:41 PM »
I don't understand why you're asking HiTech to implement something like this.  You'd be better off asking Thrustmaster to update their programming software to allow this, if it's not already a function in the software.

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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2012, 08:25:28 PM »
I don't understand why you're asking HiTech to implement something like this.  You'd be better off asking Thrustmaster to update their programming software to allow this, if it's not already a function in the software.

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Well for one reason the Thrustmaster target software is absolute crap and Guilemot support is just as bad. It would be easier for it to be added in the game, and with more and more subscribers  adding sophisticated controllers I don't think I am alone in wishing for this.

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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2012, 08:39:47 PM »
Well for one reason the Thrustmaster target software is absolute crap and Guilemot support is just as bad. It would be easier for it to be added in the game, and with more and more subscribers  adding sophisticated controllers I don't think I am alone in wishing for this.

It wouldn't be easier for HiTech to do Thrustmaster's job for them as it's not HTC's problem or product.  If you want that functionality for your joystick and the current programming software doesn't have the features you want, take it up with Thrustmaster.

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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2012, 09:12:31 PM »
Trolling wishlist ackack .... Classic ... Deposit your 25 cents here

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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2012, 09:14:36 PM »
I was going to use a piffy remark to respond to you ack ack,  but I don't prefer to feed a troll.
This feature would benefit more than just thrustmaster users, anyone who is using a programmable stick or building a simulator like me.  Again  the topic of this category is "wish list".  So this is what I wish for.  Maybe I will contact Dale directly and ask him what his quote is to add this and a couple of other features that would be nice.  A case of his preferred poison at a minimum.

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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2012, 10:03:44 PM »
Ack Ack isn't trolling. He's right. You're basically asking HTC to do thrustmaster's job in supporting their hardware. The game is VERY accomodating for almost anything you could wish for.

There are only so many buttons to go around, and having gear toggle on 1 button instead of gear up on 1 and gear down on 2, is a good thing. I have rocker buttons on my throttle quad, and I map them to different but related things. For example, gear toggle is mapped to the up-press of one rocker switch, and gear brakes is mapped to the down-press of it. Map zoom in and map zoom out are the same. Flaps up and flaps down another.

I think having HTC break up every "toggle" into the separate elements would simply lead to an unfriendly list of commands to scroll through when you're trying to set up your controls. For the most part, only a very small minority would make use of it, as well.

So, overall, outside of your VERY specific issues, it wouldn't help much if at all.

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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2012, 11:51:30 PM »
For those of us using the throttle having single command button mapping would be great.

This would make full use of all the cool toggle switches and levers on the throttle examples:

 engine on, engine off, doors open, doors close, landing gear up, landing gear down.

 While we are at it how about adding button mapping for flap controls example:

flaps fully up, flaps 25%, flaps down 50%, flaps down 75%, flaps down 100%.

With these examples it would provide button/switch mapping for virtually everything even common dot commands.

You need to learn mapping for one, I have everything listed mapped on my Warthog, simply learn to actually map it out and you will be fine. I have engines on off, doors open closed, gears up and down, flaps up and down.
Everything that's needed from engine start, gears, flaps, bomb bay doors is mapped on the throttle end, as well as wep, stick wise I have a few other things.

In all I have every button in use on the warthog mapped in game to a specific function.

Except for the Flaps, not sure where you think we need 4 buttons for flaps, but on the Warthog there is a flaps button for UP or Down, instead I have it mapped as my thumb button on the Throttle, flaps button are for bomb bay Doors.


« Last Edit: August 08, 2012, 11:53:11 PM by Butcher »
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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2012, 02:47:21 PM »
First, don't lsiten to Ack and Krusty trolling in this forum, if they're not being of any help they're contradicting themselves like usual in their posts (AH is probably the most accommodating game so HTCs clearly has a history of throwing his hands up when it comes to the matter of being accommodating...  :confused:  :D  ).  Anywho...


Now, reading your post, are you aware that AH allows you to map all these function to your controller (or should)?  See Butcher's post and the Help & Training forum for assistance in learning to map and configure your controller in-game.  If you are using (in addition to basic drivers) any third-party software provided by the manufacturer or somebody else this may be unnecessary or causing a problem as AH usually supports most devices directly.

If not then you may have outdated drivers, your controller may not be hooked up (or defunct), or your version of AH is 5-year out of date.  If those are not it then it is possible that your unit is so brand-spanking-new that AH does not support or recognize it, in which case you would ask HTCs to look into providing support for it.  It's not one or single-button though, ingame you need to select the device, and then configure each button to what you want (maybe a 2-4 step process per button).  It's not the easiest method I've seen (IE: where you select the function you want to assign and then click that button on your controller and it's set to it) but it's pretty easy.  Aces high does have maybe the most functions one could choose from to map, so if you can't or haven't found what it is you're looking for, just ask for a little help with it.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2012, 02:49:06 PM by Babalonian »
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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2012, 03:46:05 PM »
Babalonian, once you open the "Map Controllers" panel and select the stick, if it is not already selected.  Double-clicking on any of your stick buttons will highlight the button you pressed AND open the command list window.

Select the command, hit "Okay" and move to the next button on the stick.
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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2012, 06:04:11 PM »
I think Pollock is asking that in addition to the engine toggle button for example,there is also an engine on button and an engine off button. It is simpler just to map the engine toggle to 2 switches, then the on switch will start it and the off switch will stop it. The fact that the reverse is also true shouldn't be an issue.

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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2012, 06:36:57 PM »
Babalonian, once you open the "Map Controllers" panel and select the stick, if it is not already selected.  Double-clicking on any of your stick buttons will highlight the button you pressed AND open the command list window.

Select the command, hit "Okay" and move to the next button on the stick.

New to me, Ill check it out. 

Personaly I still think the process is "easier" when starting at the command you're trying to asign (after finding it on a list) and then trigering the button you want that function to be assigned to - rather than starting with the button/trigger and then scrollign through a list.
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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2012, 06:48:35 PM »
I think Pollock is asking that in addition to the engine toggle button for example,there is also an engine on button and an engine off button. It is simpler just to map the engine toggle to 2 switches, then the on switch will start it and the off switch will stop it. The fact that the reverse is also true shouldn't be an issue.

Possible, didn't think of it like that.  Didn't one of the updates in the last year include a "flaps full up/down" option? (or maybe that was trim...)

The flaps at 25/50/75% wouldn't work with the game I think, too many differences.  IE: the mustang has I think 5 or 6 positions (0/20/40/80/100%), the 190s only has 3 (0/25/50/100), spits have all or nothing (0/100).
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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2012, 01:03:06 AM »
Apparently people don't know what trolling is, and throw the word around inaccurately.   :rolleyes:

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Re: Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2012, 06:31:04 AM »
I think Pollock is asking that in addition to the engine toggle button for example,there is also an engine on button and an engine off button. It is simpler just to map the engine toggle to 2 switches, then the on switch will start it and the off switch will stop it. The fact that the reverse is also true shouldn't be an issue.

Actually, you kind of have that.  You can map the toggle command to two buttons, if you want to use two buttons to control the engine.  You just have to know which button you pressed last.  If this is for some type of cockpit, put an LED on the switch you pressed last.

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