Single action button mapping for us TM Warthog users.

[Tilt]

Problem as I see it working an AH toggle function off a toggle switch is that the toggle switch retains the output.

i.e its equivilent to holding the button down all the time.

if you can program your toggle(via game controller software) to give a fleeting out put then this can be over come.

As Skuzzy said if you then cause the toggle to give the same out put(G for gear) in the up and down position then you could use it accordingly.

However I would advise you disable auto take off as this raises the gear automatically and would leave you out of synch.

Toggle switches are very usefull for bombsight calibration where the button has to be "held down" I use a 3 pos toggle function witht he centre position left blank.

[FLS]

Actually, you kind of have that.  You can map the toggle command to two buttons, if you want to use two buttons to control the engine.  You just have to know which button you pressed last.  If this is for some type of cockpit, put an LED on the switch you pressed last.

Ta-Da!  And BOING!  Another wish fullfilled,....sort of.....in a sideways manner.

Give the man a cookie!  If you reread carefully you'll see I said the same thing. 

[hitech]

I understand what the OP is asking for, the difference is in what happens when you start flight.

A switch functions differently then a button, It must be in a correct position with start flight to work with a toggle,but it requires to different functions to work properly.
1 to start engine, one to stop engine. Other wise the switch must be in the correct position to act as a toggle.

And that functionality, can not be coded into any controller software, it must be in AH.

HiTech

[FLS]

The Warthog has four 3 position toggles switches. Two of them, marked IGN/Motor Left and Right are momentary in one direction and are ideal for selecting and starting/stopping the left and right engines. I use the APU toggle to select all engines after starting. You could also use them as gear up/down switches etc. I'm not saying it's a bad wish, just that you can already use all the buttons and switches on the Warthog without splitting toggle functions into up and down.

[Pollock]

Actually, you kind of have that.  You can map the toggle command to two buttons, if you want to use two buttons to control the engine.  You just have to know which button you pressed last.  If this is for some type of cockpit, put an LED on the switch you pressed last.

Ta-Da!  And BOING!  Another wish fullfilled,....sort of.....in a sideways manner.

Sorry I have not gotten back sooner  to the replies of my wishlist request.  Again the section is wishlist so I simply posted what I wish for.  I did not know that Kristy and back back were here to contradict a wish, silly me.

Scuzzy thanks for replying.  The reason I was asking for this was to have an exact command for each position, that way from feel without looking and by touch I will know what state that control is in.   I have already mapped all controls to my stick and throttle.

Let me plead my case one last time.  Some of the switches on thrustmaster warthog  are hard positioned that lock in the up or down position. I think they call them single pole double throw.   For this type of switch to have the option in mapping controllers to a definitive on and off would work.

Example for landing gear control from 1 toggle switch up position "gear up", down position "gear down". To do this in the controllers software may or may not be possible, if it is possible it would take a series of key strokes to train the switch to activate the command
(not easy). If this was possible via Aces high in the controller mapping, flick the switch, map the command,save, and close. (much easier).

That is my wish what would it take to make this possible.

[bustr]

You are asking for a function that the Saitek controller software has built in. You want Hitech to introduce key combo macros.

If I remember from a few years back this was not received well. With a key macro you can put together a bridge between complex actions that otherwise the real WW2 fighter pilot had to do one action at a time. Like engine management. With your Warthog at face value it would seem like a reasonable solution to a complex irritation. But, in an over view towards general game play, it will introduce a new world of game finessing to allow many to bridge the time between newbie and veteren hot stick.

Then again you could counter with Hitech could write a detection routine to only allows key macro mapping to the Warthog. At that point you would at least shorten the suspect list for HTC to look at when the game finessing complaints come in. Some of your system info including your controller type goes into (sytem.cfg) which I beleive is a snapshot everytime you start up the game that HTC sees when you access the game server.

[Skuzzy]

Actually bustr, what he is asking for would require a new set of commands to be done in the game.  Right now, no external software can know the state of a toggle and that is what would need to happen in order to use any external software solution to address his request.

[Pollock]

Actually bustr, what he is asking for would require a new set of commands to be done in the game.  Right now, no external software can know the state of a toggle and that is what would need to happen in order to use any external software solution to address his request.

It would not be necessary to know the state. Pre flight launch it would be the pilots job to set the toggles before taxi to take off.
A perfect reason would be you get shot down back in the tower. Now before start up you have to set switches to be ready, that's how
DCSA10 handles it.  In DCSA10 within the virtual cockpit you can see the switches change state, which is helpful but not really necessary.  I realize this is a wish that only a few would benefit, however the newer high end controllers will have more than momentary buttons and switches.

[Skuzzy]

I cannot address that as I am not part of the development team.

My thought was to use a single command to get the state of any other assigned command so external software could be used to do exactly what you want.  I cannot say it is possible or if it would be worth the effort to do.

I do not and cannot speak for the development team.

[bustr]

Just took a look out on ThrustMaster's page. I stand corrected. Toggle switches. I thought the AirForce had commited itself to fly by wire and push button. Douh...1970's vintage cockpits. At least we don't work flaps with a lever.

[Pollock]

Just took a look out on ThrustMaster's page. I stand corrected. Toggle switches. I thought the AirForce had commited itself to fly by wire and push button. Douh...1970's vintage cockpits. At least we don't work flaps with a lever.

Before I started using the Warthog  I used a saitek throttle quadrant using the saitek programming software I  mapped the axis bands to a lever it worked well. Too bad flap control couldn't use axis directly through Aces high.  Oops there I go wishing again time to really look at the Target software for thrustmaster it really has its issues even starting up without crashing.