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Offline lyric1

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109T
« on: August 15, 2012, 04:17:32 PM »
I could not find any information on the skins forum on the 109T being skinned & substituted for an E model.

Would that be acceptable to do?
Thoughts on that as I found this particular aircraft.





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Re: 109T
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2012, 08:47:29 PM »
I would say  :aok   :aok but some would think my opinion was biased...    :noid
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Re: 109T
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2012, 10:06:42 PM »
Nope. The T-1 was definitely different and flew very different. The T-2 in limited numbers was much more like the E-7N or E-7Z. It doesn't fit the E-4 we have in-game.

I think it's been discussed a few times over the years, yes.

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Re: 109T
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2012, 12:12:59 PM »
extanded wingtips for extra lift, and a leading edge spoiler.  :)
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Re: 109T
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2012, 10:45:33 PM »
Spoiler wasn't leading edge. That's the slots. The spoilers were on top of the wing to aid in carrier landings. Seeing as the small number of long-wing 109Ts that saw service had most of the naval gear removed, I imagine these spoilers were removed as well.

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Re: 109T
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2012, 11:58:12 PM »
Spoiler wasn't leading edge. That's the slots. The spoilers were on top of the wing to aid in carrier landings. Seeing as the small number of long-wing 109Ts that saw service had most of the naval gear removed, I imagine these spoilers were removed as well.
minor correction: its "slats" not "slots".
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Re: 109T
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 12:47:22 AM »
I think slots is correct... as they do not droop so much as extend straight forward. Slats are like leading-edge flaps, no?

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Re: 109T
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 01:01:24 AM »
I think slots is correct... as they do not droop so much as extend straight forward. Slats are like leading-edge flaps, no?
A slot has a gap between it and the main wing. See the wings of a Storch. A slat extends forward while maintaining contact with the wing over its entire length. See Bf109.
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Re: 109T
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 01:08:04 AM »
I suppose you're right. Point taken.

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Re: 109T
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 05:36:09 AM »
Goodness me you guys are terrible nit pickers  :lol
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Re: 109T
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2012, 12:15:29 PM »
Goodness me you guys are terrible nit pickers  :lol

Here's a pic I found over at NASA to help you keep it straight:



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Re: 109T
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2012, 05:08:43 PM »
Here's a pic I found over at NASA to help you keep it straight:

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yeah but where is the slot?
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Re: 109T
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 09:16:19 PM »
A slat extends surface area, thus changing how the airflow acts around the surface and delaying stall. A SLOT specifically channels airflow from beneath the wing to above the wing, increasing airflow above wing and delaying negative stall handling. That's not to say all slats must be airtight, but their main benefit is changing the incidence of the leading edge so that you create more lift. Slots don't do that.

The way Messerschmitt leading edge panels work is to specifically channel air. They do not droop much (an inch or two) but they extend well forward of the wing to create this channel.

To me that's much more of a slot, than a slat.

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Re: 109T
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2012, 12:37:19 AM »
"Messerschmitt Bf-109 A-E, Develpment, Testing, Production" by Willy Radinger and Walter Schick refers to them as "slats" for what it's worth :)

And should HTC ever decide to update the 109E and add the E7, I'll change my name to Von Corky and fly Luftwaffe! :)

Best looking of the 109s without a doubt :aok
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Re: 109T
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2012, 01:00:30 AM »
I would love HTC to add a "trop filter" to the hangar, as well! Simply cosmetic, I think the E-4, E-7, F-4, and G-2 look best with the sand filter on the supercharger intake! Especially the square ones on the E's!