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Offline Wiley

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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2012, 10:57:05 AM »
I've held off saying this yet again, but here goes.  This would be bad for the game.  The game needs players in the air or in fighting vehicles for other players to interact with for the game to be fun.  Encouraging players to sit idle on a hillside for 30 minutes, completely out of the game, while another player slowly flies a Storch, mostly out of the game, to pick him up would hurt the game overall.

Further, sitting on a hill for 30 minutes hoping to be rescued seems about as fun as watching paint dry.

That's pretty much my opinion on it as well, but based on that logic, everything we do should be advancing the game.  We all have our things that 'take us out of the game', like going afk to let the dog out, spending a bunch of time climbing to ridiculous alt, heading off in a different direction from known enemies on a hunch that there's an NOE headed that way.  Any of a thousand things that aren't the 'best' use of our time.  According to some the best use of our time is to join up with the horde to make the base take go faster.  Heck, if you're not flying a late war monster plane, you're not being as effective as you could possibly be if you were flying one of the best planes.

With that said, I still agree it's bad for the game.

If the gameplay of this suggestion were actually 'fun', people could do it already.  Bail, sit in the middle of nowhere until the storch/C47 gets there, .ef, .join the player, and sit there as he flies back to the friendly field and lands.  Have the rescuing pilot announce on 200 that he rescued the rescuee in a C47.

I would respectfully submit that the reason this doesn't happen is because it's not actually fun gameplay, and the only reason people want it is to avoid negative marks on their score.

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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2012, 11:56:22 AM »
That's pretty much my opinion on it as well, but based on that logic, everything we do should be advancing the game.  We all have our things that 'take us out of the game', like going afk to let the dog out, spending a bunch of time climbing to ridiculous alt, heading off in a different direction from known enemies on a hunch that there's an NOE headed that way.  Any of a thousand things that aren't the 'best' use of our time.  According to some the best use of our time is to join up with the horde to make the base take go faster.  Heck, if you're not flying a late war monster plane, you're not being as effective as you could possibly be if you were flying one of the best planes.

With that said, I still agree it's bad for the game.

If the gameplay of this suggestion were actually 'fun', people could do it already.  Bail, sit in the middle of nowhere until the storch/C47 gets there, .ef, .join the player, and sit there as he flies back to the friendly field and lands.  Have the rescuing pilot announce on 200 that he rescued the rescuee in a C47.

I would respectfully submit that the reason this doesn't happen is because it's not actually fun gameplay, and the only reason people want it is to avoid negative marks on their score.

Wiley.
Exactly.

I wouldn't have any concerns about it, other than the waste of dev time to create it, if it were not paired with things to encourage it actually being used.  The problem is that all of these wishes for it pair it with mechanisms to encourage the players to use it because they know if there aren't any such mechanisms it won't be used at all.

Basically the game doesn't need mechanisms in it that encourage people to not participate in the game.
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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2012, 12:48:42 PM »
Ya good point Wiley.  Heck ive shot players down before though seen them ditch so instead of finish the ac on the ground I rtbd only to never get a kill message. They were shot down out side their dar ring so after the third time of this happening I sat otr waiting for them to ditch ;) Its amazing what some will do to Deni you the kill.

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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2012, 12:52:56 PM »
Ya good point Wiley.  Heck ive shot players down before though seen them ditch so instead of finish the ac on the ground I rtbd only to never get a kill message. They were shot down out side their dar ring so after the third time of this happening I sat otr waiting for them to ditch ;) Its amazing what some will do to Deni you the kill.

Some people may be so embarrassed by their fighting they want to deny the kill message so the other guy won't know their id and call them girly names on 200.  :frown:

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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2012, 12:59:28 PM »
Some people may be so embarrassed by their fighting

Glad  to know you are so self aware  :aok
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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2012, 01:27:51 PM »
Some people may be so embarrassed by their fighting they want to deny the kill message so the other guy won't know their id and call them girly names on 200.  :frown:

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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2012, 01:42:16 PM »
Didn't call you girly names I simple put up 9-2;)

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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2012, 01:46:35 PM »
Here is a great idea:

Fly a plane.

Shoot down other planes.

Land in the same plane that you started your sortie in, on concrete,  in airworthy condition and then you can have your name in lights to show everyone how awesome you are.   :aok
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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2012, 01:50:32 PM »
Didn't call you girly names I simple put up 9-2;)

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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2012, 01:53:59 PM »
good idea von I still like my refuel option for ac being refuled by m3s though;)

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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2012, 01:59:43 PM »
good idea von I still like my refuel option for ac being refuled by m3s though;)


At least it is worthy of discussion.

Better than considering a sortie "landed" after you've been shot down, parts of your plane are scattered over a 1 square mile area and you have hitched a ride back to the field.  That is surviving, not landing.
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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2012, 02:07:20 PM »
it would add something to the game...I don't think you should get your name in lights if you ditch or bail as you didn't complete your sortie properly...you should just get the same as points perks as it is now, perhaps a touch more that way the guys who play for score can wait and it would count for something...the rescue guy should for sure though, as that was his sortie mission .... name in lights for kills should be bumped up in number IMO...sorry that should be added to another wish...please excuse me for that....

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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2012, 02:48:33 PM »
At least it is worthy of discussion.

Better than considering a sortie "landed" after you've been shot down, parts of your plane are scattered over a 1 square mile area and you have hitched a ride back to the field.  That is surviving, not landing.
:airplane: I appreciate all comments on my thread, but to explain further: It is not an idea to preserve someone's kills or score's! It is just something that we enjoy doing, because it is different than the typical base taking mission. The fighter escort lead has to plan his CAP stance, not to mention that someone has to locate the downed squaddie. It also incourages squad mates working together to accomplish a goal of getting a squaddie home safe and sound. Score has nothing to do with it. This game is supposed to be a game based on WW2 air activities, and rescueing downed pilots was certainly carried out through out the war, and I see no reason not to include this activity to an already great game.
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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2012, 03:47:40 PM »
So... you guys are able to do it right now as I described above.  Cool!

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Re: Rescue mission
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2012, 04:02:33 PM »
wouldn't mind seeing it as a side job thats for sure
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