Don't call it...

[kilo2]

Don't call it before time. I made it to the end and am looking for a fight. I hear there is 2 38s around A base a squaddie engages. Suddenly a little blue note appears calling it off, right as he makes his attack. It gives those 38s a free ride home and really is frustrating to have people in icon to then not be able to attack.

Over all I am disappointed with this FSO.

[ImADot]

Late in the frame, if the gap in numbers is large enough, the CiC for either country can ask the other if enough is enough. If both agree, a cease fire is called. It is rare, but it does happen and they are within their power to do so. At the time the question was asked (just after T+90), the numbers "in flight" showed 64-4, and each CiC agreed to call a cease fire.

[Devil 505]

Total BS on that call. I was engaged with 2 38's  with advantage on one after they separated. Then in the confusion of the cease fire call, that 38 reverses and HO's my plane taking off a flap and my right horizontal stab. Then his wingman comes back and finishes me off.

A perfect rotten cherry for the top of this crap sundae served up by the allies. WTFG 

[Devil 505]

Late in the frame, if the gap in numbers is large enough, the CiC for either country can ask the other if enough is enough. If both agree, a cease fire is called. It is rare, but it does happen and they are within their power to do so. At the time the question was asked (just after T+90), the numbers "in flight" showed 64-4, and each CiC agreed to call a cease fire.

The pilots in flight should be made aware of this by the CiC before the call is made. Preferably the pilots should acknowledge this before the call is made.

[perdue3]

That was bogus. That whole CiC's can negotiate crap should be thrown out. The freakin event is 2 hrs long and should be non-negotiable. I would love to say more but there is a hot blonde waitin on me and this isnt good for my blood pressure at this particular moment.

Cant wait til September.

[perdue3]

Late in the frame, if the gap in numbers is large enough, the CiC for either country can ask the other if enough is enough. If both agree, a cease fire is called. It is rare, but it does happen and they are within their power to do so. At the time the question was asked (just after T+90), the numbers "in flight" showed 64-4, and each CiC agreed to call a cease fire.

Call it when it is 64-0, not 4. Those 4 were about to be in the soup and claiming some victories for the Fatherland. Throw the rule out.

[viking73]

That was bogus. That whole CiC's can negotiate crap should be thrown out. The freakin event is 2 hrs long and should be non-negotiable. I would love to say more but there is a hot blonde waitin on me and this isnt good for my blood pressure at this particular moment.

Cant wait til September.

Actually, higher blood pressure is needed if you have a hot blonde waiting for you. 

Not surprised there were 64 Allied left. Their bombers were 5k over the alt cap and ran for home after dropping on A51. The bombers we encountered further North in the 9,7 sector were at 23k or less it appeared.

[CAP1]

Late in the frame, if the gap in numbers is large enough, the CiC for either country can ask the other if enough is enough. If both agree, a cease fire is called. It is rare, but it does happen and they are within their power to do so. At the time the question was asked (just after T+90), the numbers "in flight" showed 64-4, and each CiC agreed to call a cease fire.

 so what you're saying then, is that if they have an issue in this situation, to talk to that frames cic?

[Squire]

In this instance it was not up to IMADOT to tell them "no" if in fact they requested the ceasfire. He is there to facilitate their wishes agree to it or no. We will have a review of the whole issue in the next few weeks. Its not a situation that happens all that often if memory serves...but in any case we will review it and perhaps suspend it or modify it as a rule option. If both sides are landed and towered before T+120 as an example? I could see calling the frame, that sort of thing.  

[daddog]

I was never a fan of calling it early. Every and a while (as ImADot said it is rare) it would spoil the night for a few players and it sucks to be them. Even happened to me a couple times. As Devil pointed out communication between the pilots and CiC is important, but keep in mind if they are in a fight it can be hard to type out messages and communicate with the CiC.

On the flip side if it was ran the full two hours then this would never be a bother to anyone. Exception being as Squire said when both sides have towered out. My two cents.

[WxMan]

Of the many times I've CiC'd these events, I've asked to call it early about 3 or 4 times. The first time I made an autonomous decision and ran into the same criticism. The other times I polled the country channel for permission and waited 5 minutes for responses. Only once was that decision delayed because of continuing combat.

[Viper61]

Theres another issue to the CIC calling an "End to Hostilities".  And that is the points.

I was a ALLIED CIC one time several years back and we got our collective butts handed to us.  Just the way it goes sometimes.  As I was monitoring the situation it was becoming very clear to me that if the fighting continued my side would only lose more points.  So I called it for our side about 20 min early because the side pilot levels were really lopsided and if we kept fighting my side would likely only lose more points making it more difficult for the CIC in the follow on frames.  In this case, that decision stopped the AXIS from strafing our bases and destroying more targets (points) and shotting down the remainder of our defending AC (points) that were using their base ACK's as a final defensive tactic.

I didn't want to lose the entire scenario (final points values) because of one frame and a desire for a few guys to keep on fighting.  So just keep in mind there is another side to this.

[Nefarious]

I was never a fan of calling it early. Every and a while (as ImADot said it is rare) it would spoil the night for a few players and it sucks to be them. Even happened to me a couple times. As Devil pointed out communication between the pilots and CiC is important, but keep in mind if they are in a fight it can be hard to type out messages and communicate with the CiC.

On the flip side if it was ran the full two hours then this would never be a bother to anyone. Exception being as Squire said when both sides have towered out. My two cents.

I agree. No reason to end it early.

[Spikes]

Theres another issue to the CIC calling an "End to Hostilities".  And that is the points.

I was a ALLIED CIC one time several years back and we got our collective butts handed to us.  Just the way it goes sometimes.  As I was monitoring the situation it was becoming very clear to me that if the fighting continued my side would only lose more points.  So I called it for our side about 20 min early because the side pilot levels were really lopsided and if we kept fighting my side would likely only lose more points making it more difficult for the CIC in the follow on frames.  In this case, that decision stopped the AXIS from strafing our bases and destroying more targets (points) and shotting down the remainder of our defending AC (points) that were using their base ACK's as a final defensive tactic.

I didn't want to lose the entire scenario (final points values) because of one frame and a desire for a few guys to keep on fighting.  So just keep in mind there is another side to this.

I bet Hitler or anyone for that matter would have loved to have called an end to hostilities so they wouldn't get swamped as bad. The above should never be allowed.

[surfinn]

That was bogus. That whole CiC's can negotiate crap should be thrown out. The freakin event is 2 hrs long and should be non-negotiable. I would love to say more but there is a hot blonde waitin on me and this isnt good for my blood pressure at this particular moment.

Cant wait til September.

whats his name?