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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2012, 12:16:17 PM »
Look down shoot down radar is a relatively modern invention.  Plane based radar I assume would have difficulty seeing anything below it with 1940s tech.


Read the wiki page in the OP.  Pilots counted on plane based airborne radar, esp at night, to find the enemy.


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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2012, 12:17:48 PM »
So now you support it, but only if it is given a range that makes it nearly useless?  :lol

20 or 30 mile diameter would wok fine, be useful, and many would appreciate it. :salute

No thats why I've been saying its pointless, it cant have the same range as athe field dar and be realistic,  and youd have to park it on hills to get abouve ground clutter so you have to drive the thing all over to get a good spot, then your a thin skinned sitting duck at a airfield that is horded.  So yea its pointless, andnobody would use it
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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2012, 12:18:59 PM »
Read the wiki page in the OP.  Pilots counted on plane based airborne radar, esp at night, to find the enemy.
read what he said, for contacts that were not below them, and so if the contacts are high you know ehwhere they are anyway because of bardar. Get out off the horde now and then and youd know this,.
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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2012, 12:21:14 PM »
I only have one account.   Ingame name "who".

Btw, the mobile dar could be a load-out on a goon or M3 if a new vehicle is too time consuming to make.  In reading about mobile radar solutions it sounds like it did not necessarily require a special aeroplane or vehicle, just equipment.

Maybe you should read more about how radar worked and was used during WW2 before you make a wish about it.

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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2012, 12:24:52 PM »
Maybe you should read more about how radar worked and was used during WW2 before you make a wish about it.

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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2012, 12:39:07 PM »
Maybe you should read more about how radar worked and was used during WW2 before you make a wish about it.

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Well, this being a game as much as a flight sim, I don't think exact specifications and methodologies are necessary just for radar.  A simple solution (25 mile diameter), similar to what we have now on mobile CVs but available as a loadout on goons or mosquitos would work fine.

Btw, I don't think bar dar was a radar type in WWII either.  I am not wishing for anything complicated, just a similar mobile radar as CVs have now, but on an aeroplane and/or a GV.
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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2012, 12:44:21 PM »
Well, this being a game as much as a flight sim, I don't think exact specifications and methodologies are necessary just for radar.  A simple solution (25 mile diameter), similar to what we have now on mobile CVs but available as a loadout on goons or mosquitos would work fine.

You realise a cv is bigger than a goon or mosquito right? Also the sea is  "flat' so no mountains to clutter up the 25 mi range like  a van or if in a plane the contacts would need to be higher and not below the dar plane so yet again you can just use the darbar so its pointless.
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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2012, 01:51:38 PM »
      What if the ground based radar "van" is on a mountain?  Radar is Line Of Sight, as the signal needs to be able to return to the receiver.
I'm not for GV based radar, but at short ranges it would be nice to have icons <simulating Mark-1 eyeball reports>

     Just FYI, the F-4 Phantom had 1960s based technology and could automagically track targets out to 50 miles.  Supposedly the max range
was 200 miles, but who knows....maybe if you were tracking the Hindenburg  :D
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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2012, 02:11:26 PM »
can somebody post that picture of grizz killing a jeep way up in the mountains?  think that's what midway would want, take 1 hr to climb a hill to get in position for...

well not really sure what for, not like you really need dar to find the enemy around any base.


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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2012, 02:13:49 PM »
can somebody post that picture of grizz killing a jeep way up in the mountains?  think that's what midway would want, take 1 hr to climb a hill to get in position for...

well not really sure what for, not like you really need dar to find the enemy around any base.


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Thats what Im screamin' also I think he was trolling cuz we all know he aint gonna up it if it aint a spit.
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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2012, 02:17:45 PM »
... he was trolling cuz we all know he aint gonna up it if it aint a spit.

Falsly accused again. :old:


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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2012, 02:38:42 PM »
Falsly accused again. :old:

sure nobody else would think to ask for such a worthless thing unless they were trolling.
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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2012, 03:05:11 PM »
Well, this being a game as much as a flight sim, I don't think exact specifications and methodologies are necessary just for radar.  A simple solution (25 mile diameter), similar to what we have now on mobile CVs but available as a loadout on goons or mosquitos would work fine.

Btw, I don't think bar dar was a radar type in WWII either.  I am not wishing for anything complicated, just a similar mobile radar as CVs have now, but on an aeroplane and/or a GV.

C-47s didn't carry an airborne radar set and the early airborne radar carried by planes were very limited in range and power.  Planes would be vectored by ground control until they were close enough to use their airborne radar to find the bandit.  They weren't used to plug gaps in radar coverage, early airborne radar didn't work that way. 

Slapping a radar on a GV wouldn't be easy as none of the vehicles we have were used to carry mobile radar. 

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British mobile CHL Radar

*Note: due the large gap in overhead coverage, this mobile setup had less than satisfactory results.

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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2012, 03:10:16 PM »
C-47s didn't carry an airborne radar set and the early airborne radar carried by planes were very limited in range and power.  Planes would be vectored by ground control until they were close enough to use their airborne radar to find the bandit.  They weren't used to plug gaps in radar coverage, early airborne radar didn't work that way. 

Slapping a radar on a GV wouldn't be easy as none of the vehicles we have were used to carry mobile radar. 

British Mobile Radar
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British mobile CHL Radar
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*Note: due the large gap in overhead coverage, this mobile setup had less than satisfactory results.

US mobile radar
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Good information...  Maybe GV mobile based radar doesn't work... but I still wish for it and airborne radar on maybe Mosquitos or some other bomber type aeroplane.  It would add to the fun in the game.


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Re: Mobile radar
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2012, 03:12:13 PM »

Good information...  Maybe GV mobile based radar doesn't work... but I still wish for it and airborne radar on maybe Mosquitos or some other bomber type aeroplane.  It would add to the fun in the game.
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