Hyundai vs Honda

[CAP1]

you forgot about the dist. problems in the mid 80's to the early/mid 90's hondas. leaking oil into the dist., or bearings seizing.

[Shuffler]

Lot of vehicles now go to low power when cel. Makes them pretty much undrivable.

Years back the computer mike make it run rough when cel.

Seems folks just kept on driving. lol

I recently had a short in a wire going to one of my injectors on my diesel. Dropped power... felt like weedeater engine under the hood. lol

[CAP1]

Lot of vehicles now go to low power when cel. Makes them pretty much undrivable.

Years back the computer mike make it run rough when cel.

Seems folks just kept on driving. lol

I recently had a short in a wire going to one of my injectors on my diesel. Dropped power... felt like weedeater engine under the hood. lol

 uumm.....the computer didn't make the car run rough when the cel was on, but rather the cel was on due to the car running rough.

 you dropped power, because you were down a cylinder, not because the computer lowered your power.

[Shuffler]

uumm.....the computer didn't make the car run rough when the cel was on, but rather the cel was on due to the car running rough.

 you dropped power, because you were down a cylinder, not because the computer lowered your power.

On diesels when a cel is on it'll go low power. It is not like the loss of one cylinder..... even though one cylinder in this case was pretty much gone. You can't even drive up a very gentle slope.

[Wolfala]

I had a 93 Civic VX hatchback for 230,000. Then got a 2000 Civic till 04 and put 70,000 on it. Then had an 04 Acura TSX 04-07 for myself which to replaced with an 07 TL type S after a high tension power line let loose and crushed it. My wife has an 05 TSX till this day with 60k.my TLS has 98k and I plan to keep it till its dead.

We pay a bit more for the reliability and build quality.

[icepac]

Most of the distributor oil problems stem from super long oil change intervals.

These long intervals are responsible for the degradation of valve stem seals, cam seals, and the distributor shaft seals.

I've seen cars with 25,000 miles on an oil change and actually had a maxima with a spun bearing that, after pulling the pan, I found what looked like pudding with a hole in the center from where the oil pickup exited.

[Grayeagle]

Just so you know .. I drove my lil Honda's quite a bit harder than 'Joe Public' ..ie:

My '87 CRX ran in C-stock in gymkhana events (placed 2nd first time out, a VW Fox won by 2 tenths)
.. I useda drive it 91 miles from my driveway to the parking lot where I worked ..then back another 91 miles .. 5-6 days a week.
There was a section of hiway from Victorville to Palmdale that was 20 miles dead straight
..2 lane blacktop out in the middle of nowhere that I drove to work an back.
I just floored it and held it until T intersection at the other end.
Because I could.

My CRX topped out at 127mph.
It was the last of the carb motors that Honda made.

My '88 Civic Hatchback topped out at 135mph.
Ya .. it was faster, got better mileage and was a bigger car altho not by much

Interestingly enough, my '88 Honda Shadow 1100cc topped out at 125mph ..
..it would go faster, but with no windshield it stopped being 'fun' at 100mph or so.

My '78 Gold Wing (Windjammer fairing) would putt right on up to 130mph ..
..it too would go faster
..but the frame started a wobble that progressively got worse and felt 'dangerous'
..ya .. even for me.

I ran Mobil 1 full synthetic in all, oily changes every 5 thousand miles
(you can go 7k tween oily changes according to the literature when Mobil 1 synthetic first came out, but .. that seems excessive

-Frank aka GE (-just sayin (tm Pasha))

[Shuffler]

I have nothing to compare them to. The smallest vehicle, other than a motorcycle, that I have owned was a '67 mustang.

[CAP1]

I have nothing to compare them to. The smallest vehicle, other than a motorcycle, that I have owned was a '67 mustang.

 know what's funny? i never thought they were small.....i've owned a half dozen or so 60's mustangs.......till i sat in one the other day. holy moly!! dam thing's tiny inside compared to my 012

[Shuffler]

know what's funny? i never thought they were small.....i've owned a half dozen or so 60's mustangs.......till i sat in one the other day. holy moly!! dam thing's tiny inside compared to my 012

Yes the new ones are quite a bit larger and heavier.

[CAP1]

Yes the new ones are quite a bit larger and heavier.

 you forgot faster. and quicker. and better braking. and better handling. 

[RngFndr]

you forgot faster. and quicker. and better braking. and better handling. 

Ya know CAP, by the numbers, that is most likely true..
But they don't FEEL, NEAR as good doing it!

[CAP1]

Ya know CAP, by the numbers, that is most likely true..
But they don't FEEL, NEAR as good doing it!

 heheheh....you ain't driven one yet then. i've driven the camaros and mustangs, of pretty much every generation. i gotta tell ya......this current generation is the best feeling to me of both. i liked my 89 fox body. i like driving my customers. i've driven the sn95's.....they suck. to me the 3rd and 4th gen camaros rate right with the sn95 mustangs......but the holden camaros, and the s197 mustangs......i'd venture to call them both poor mans supercars.

 BTW....my absolute fav camaro is the 69 z28, and fav mustang is the 67/68 fastback. 

[RngFndr]

I LIKE the way the oldies feel.. I grew up with them..
I've driven the new ones too.. Super techno, solid and fast, sure..
But the oldies still got it for me.. Just a matter of Taste..

SS396/4sp Camaro RED.. 68 Firebird 400/4sp Blue.. 68 cougar 390/Toploader XR7 Black,
wifes cars, 66 Impala Convertible 427/4sp White, 68 Olds 442/400/4sp Canary Yellow..
Many Many more drivers.. They come and they go..

Hell, in the 70's we had matching Red Trans/Ams, LOL!
Make me feel silly now, we laugh about it..

We've been in the car biz our whole lives.. Packed it in years ago,
moved to the woods.. Livin the Country life now..

[CAP1]

I LIKE the way the oldies feel.. I grew up with them..
I've driven the new ones too.. Super techno, solid and fast, sure..
But the oldies still got it for me.. Just a matter of Taste..

SS396/4sp Camaro RED.. 68 Firebird 400/4sp Blue.. 68 cougar 390/Toploader XR7 Black,
wifes cars, 66 Impala Convertible 427/4sp White, 68 Olds 442/400/4sp Canary Yellow..
Many Many more drivers.. They come and they go..

Hell, in the 70's we had matching Red Trans/Ams, LOL!
Make me feel silly now, we laugh about it..

We've been in the car biz our whole lives.. Packed it in years ago,
moved to the woods.. Livin the Country life now..

 my 69 couger had the 351 with that dam fmx slushbox. my 67/68 mustangs all had 289's or 302's with automatics. they all ran well. my ford truck had a 351m in it.....that sucked, although it did have decent torque. my friends camaros all had smallblocks. his 68 ended up getting the 400 out of my chevy truck. that woke that car up.

 you don't make yer grandma ride on a chair up on the back of yer car now, do ya?