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Offline VonMessa

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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #75 on: August 24, 2012, 06:21:05 AM »
There is no information of any kind from the founding fathers to back up your assertion about the citizens being armed as a standing Army.

There is also nothing to debunk it, either.
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #76 on: August 24, 2012, 06:43:16 AM »
I think everyone, and all babies at birth should be DNA sampled

I disagree AH would have no customer base   :)
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Offline RngFndr

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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #77 on: August 24, 2012, 07:34:32 AM »
Headline from the Chicago Tribune, August 24 2012
From the Land of NO GUNS ALLOWED..

19 shot overnight in Chicago.. 13 in 30 minutes..
This is in Chicago, where guns are NOT ALLOWED..

So, do gun control laws work??? For what Purpose???
Sounds like they work pretty good at getting people killed!
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« Reply #78 on: August 24, 2012, 08:05:14 AM »
I think everyone, and all babies at birth should be DNA sampled

Well, i guess they can have a tag in their ear too, like Cattle???
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #79 on: August 24, 2012, 08:25:08 AM »
Why are drug addicts not put onto islands and given a bed and bible?

  Isn't that called Australia?  :D
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« Reply #80 on: August 24, 2012, 08:47:28 AM »
Just saw another Headline, From New York..
5 people shot at the Empire State building..
Another Gun Free Zone!

Gotta love unarmed Victims, they make it so easy!

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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #81 on: August 24, 2012, 08:48:23 AM »
I agree :old:
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« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2012, 09:26:19 AM »
I am armed. I do not force others to arm themselves.

I'll protect myself and my family. Other's can call the police and wait.... if they are lucky they can get the turd to wait before he acts upon them or their family.
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #83 on: August 24, 2012, 09:43:53 AM »
Well, i guess they can have a tag in their ear too, like Cattle???
Wait a sec, I'll bet ya have a cell phone huh??? Samey Same!
Mooo???
Don't be obtuse. I was not suggesting tagging, merely that everyone should have their DNA on file. Innocent people would have nothing to fear. Burglars, rapists, thieves etc would. :old:
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2012, 09:49:52 AM »
Don't be obtuse. I was not suggesting tagging, merely that everyone should have their DNA on file. Innocent people would have nothing to fear. Burglars, rapists, thieves etc would. :old:

Sorry but I am not the property of the state..

The Gestapo and Hitler himself, would'a had
wet dreams over control of this nature!
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« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2012, 10:02:58 AM »
Sorry but I am not the property of the state..

The Gestapo and Hitler himself, would'a had
wet dreams over control of this nature!


Seriously, how do you associate having your dna on file, with being.controlled? My dna was taken when I joined the police. I dont care that it was, because I have nothing to hide. The government know where you live, what you do for a living, where you shop and what for. They know pretty much everything they want to know about you, and me, and yet right now I can go out on my bike, ride wherever I want, do pretty.much whatever I want, I dont feel controlled in any way other than by the.law and my own morals.
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #86 on: August 24, 2012, 10:12:35 AM »
The thing is  all gun laws do is take them away form law abiding citizens, a criminal will find away to get  agat if he wants.
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« Reply #87 on: August 24, 2012, 10:13:22 AM »
Seriously, how do you associate having your dna on file, with being.controlled? My dna was taken when I joined the police. I dont care that it was, because I have nothing to hide. The government know where you live, what you do for a living, where you shop and what for. They know pretty much everything they want to know about you, and me, and yet right now I can go out on my bike, ride wherever I want, do pretty.much whatever I want, I dont feel controlled in any way other than by the.law and my own morals.

I was born long before the DNA sampling started..
My military service ended, before DNA sampling was done..
All that was needed, was my finger prints.. I see no reason to
Catalogue my molecular physiology, in the same manner as
livestock, for selection..

Sad what has happened to your country!


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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #88 on: August 24, 2012, 10:32:04 AM »
I stated in another thread my for a similar question. Prohibition tends to work only for those who are inclined to accede to the law. History has shown that in the case of a prohibited activity, object or concept that the law or prohibition does not remove the alleged danger from society. The prohibition on liquor was a prime example. The prohibition on so called "recreational drugs" is another.

As to the prohibition on guns, I think the following describes how well it really works. Columbine, Virginia Tech and Aurora there are more but I'm keeping the list short. All were by law, gun controlled. In those cases only those inclined to follow laws were doing so. In those cases the individual(s) who were not inclined to follow that law as well as the laws prohibiting murder, assault and mayhem were not dissuaded. In those cases they were not stopped until someone with the means to end the situation responded and started to take action.
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Re: Gun control laws do they work ?
« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2012, 10:55:45 AM »
I was born long before the DNA sampling started..
My military service ended, before DNA sampling was done..
All that was needed, was my finger prints.. I see no reason to
Catalogue my molecular physiology, in the same manner as
livestock, for selection..

Sad what has happened to your country!



When I first started military service DNA sampling wasnt done either. I fail to see the relevance. Is your only argument really that you object to being catalogued. You still did not explain how having your dna on record exerts any kind of control over you if you are a law abiding citizen.?
As far as I am concerned, if having a database of everyones vital statistics,  results in a rapist being caught before he can walk down the same streets as my daughter, then i want it in place and now.
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