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Offline MaSonZ

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Hirens 5.1.1
« on: August 26, 2012, 05:18:19 PM »
co worker says me yesterday "can you fix my computer? it cheese the bed like 6 months ago, and I havent touched it or had anyone touch it"...alright. ask him what he emans by "cheese the bed" and he says it boots normally, but then a blue screen comes up and it restarts. alright, good chance of HDD failure.... use my stethoscope to listen to it, sounds like it should. I'll slap my copy of Hirens into the CD drive, boot it and do a chkdsk...cant see an option for it. Anyone done a chkdsk with 5.1? Scoured the program high and low, checked on the website, nothing.  :bhead I have his drive hooked up to my machine doing a chkdsk as I type this, but I could have avoided opening up my machine, pluging it in and doing it the long way if I could find a tool/option for chkdsk.

The only Reason I want to do the chkdsk is because I wanna see if theres something bad on there, such as a sector, that I cant hear with my ears.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 08:20:46 PM »
To fix friend's computer you something else than ears and stethoscope...

Would be nice if you reveal that ultra secret system's win version(XP, 7?).

Anyway, hit F8 on startup, start in safe mode and disable auto restart on system failure.
Restart again in normal mode, make note on error when BSOD is on.
Google up error code, restart again in safe mode and fix it...


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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 08:52:02 PM »
Quote from: 2bighorn on August 26, 2012, 08:20:46 PM
To fix friend's computer you something else than ears and stethoscope...

Would be nice if you reveal that ultra secret system's win version(XP, 7?).

Anyway, hit F8 on startup, start in safe mode and disable auto restart on system failure.
Restart again in normal mode, make note on error when BSOD is on.
Google up error code, restart again in safe mode and fix it...



wouldnt start into safe mode. Got aggrivated at it, backed his data up onto my machine after consulting and did a format and clean install of 7, which was on it previously.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2012, 08:58:21 PM »
That is quite a gray area of blue.  You could be looking at PSU, MOBO, CPU failure.  Maybe the RAM aren't seated properly.  That's a lot of could be's.  Never heard of using a stethoscope to detect a bad sector on a HDD.
Hope you get it straightened out.

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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2012, 09:31:24 PM »
Quote from: 100Coogn on August 26, 2012, 08:58:21 PM
That is quite a gray area of blue.  You could be looking at PSU, MOBO, CPU failure.  Maybe the RAM aren't seated properly.  That's a lot of could be's.  Never heard of using a stethoscope to detect a bad sector on a HDD.
Hope you get it straightened out.

Coogan
reseated RAM, its a laptop so power supply isnt really questionable. I opened the system restore from the windows repair doo dad and it showed two critical updates in march, 6 months ago, he also said it was around 6 months ago when it happened. too coincidental for me. the stethoscope is listening to bad sectors, its listening to the sound of the drive.if its a good drive itl be clean sound you hear. if its failing youll hear excessive clicking (the needle, drawing a blank on the tech. name of it, running off the disks and back on), or a whirring, whiny sound like a band saw.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2012, 02:59:14 AM »
Never heard about using chkdsk from a Hiren's disk before, and version 5 is very old for Windows7 anyway.

2bighorn's advice was partially on the right track, but instead of trying safe mode after f8 you should choose "Repair your computer". You then log in with your friend's profile, start the command prompt and run chkdsk /r from there within. It will say the disk is in use and ask if you'd like to force it to be unmounted, just answer y(es) and the scanning will start.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2012, 04:12:58 AM »
Quote from: Bizman on August 27, 2012, 02:59:14 AM
Never heard about using chkdsk from a Hiren's disk before, and version 5 is very old for Windows7 anyway.

2bighorn's advice was partially on the right track, but instead of trying safe mode after f8 you should choose "Repair your computer". You then log in with your friend's profile, start the command prompt and run chkdsk /r from there within. It will say the disk is in use and ask if you'd like to force it to be unmounted, just answer y(es) and the scanning will start.

Better yet, boot to rescue mode from Win7 setup disc and the drive won't get mounted in the first place. First things to do in this kind of scenario would be running chkdsk naturally and then torture testing the ram with memtest86+ for a few hours. If any errors show up he has problems with either ram sticks or mobo/cpu memory controller.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2012, 06:37:36 PM »
Quote from: MrRiplEy[H] on August 27, 2012, 04:12:58 AM
Better yet, boot to rescue mode from Win7 setup disc and the drive won't get mounted in the first place. First things to do in this kind of scenario would be running chkdsk naturally and then torture testing the ram with memtest86+ for a few hours. If any errors show up he has problems with either ram sticks or mobo/cpu memory controller.
tried both... but he forgot his password to got originally, but he forgot his password, its been 6 months.

5.1.1 was the newest I saw on the website....if I can be pointed in the right direction for the latest Hirens it would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2012, 12:22:13 AM »
Quote from: MaSonZ on August 27, 2012, 06:37:36 PM
tried both... but he forgot his password to got originally, but he forgot his password, its been 6 months.

5.1.1 was the newest I saw on the website....if I can be pointed in the right direction for the latest Hirens it would be greatly appreciated.

Then get a linux rescue cd and boot to that, it will let you scan the drive without any passwords. Or even crack your friends password.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2012, 12:30:50 AM »
Ophcrack should find his password (thats what I use when a client has forgotten his password - happens way more than you'd think)

Hirens boot cd, (most up to date) can be found here http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/

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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2012, 07:51:00 PM »
What is Hiren's? Just a typical boot CD, or something more?

More like Knoppix?

Never heard of it, so I'm curious.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2012, 08:05:25 PM »
Quote from: Krusty on August 28, 2012, 07:51:00 PM
What is Hiren's? Just a typical boot CD, or something more?

More like Knoppix?

Never heard of it, so I'm curious.

Ever heard of home pages?  :lol

It's a collection of antivirus etc. tools on a linux boot cd.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2012, 08:18:01 PM »
I looked at the page. It's terrible. Tells me nothing. Just a changelog for a homepage, and a downloads link... and a ton of screenshots showing text prompts.

Thanks for the explanation, though.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2012, 08:22:36 PM »
Quote from: gpwurzel on August 28, 2012, 12:30:50 AM
Ophcrack should find his password (thats what I use when a client has forgotten his password - happens way more than you'd think)

Hirens boot cd, (most up to date) can be found here http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/

Wurz
never saw an hirensbootcd. org website on my google searches.
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Re: Hirens 5.1.1
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 10:48:33 AM »
Up to version 10 or so it consisted of bootlegged programs, after that it's been a compilation of legitimate freeware, maybe some shareware, too.
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