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Offline MK-84

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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2012, 09:58:30 PM »
Quote from: Nath[BDP] on August 27, 2012, 11:57:56 PM
The airframe does seem weak.  It should be tougher imo considering it handles like an overweight piggy.

handling, or weight even, does not correlate to airframe toughness.
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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2012, 09:58:59 PM »
Quote from: MK-84 on August 28, 2012, 09:54:15 PM
Shame on you... :old:

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Offline Scherf

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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2012, 10:27:56 PM »
Seriously, HTC, please look at this. The wings just get sawn off easy.
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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2012, 09:44:22 AM »
Pound for pound, wood can easily be stronger than metal.

I learned that in 7th grade shop class.
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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2012, 10:22:36 AM »
the wing root seems to be very resistant to my bullets, but the outer wing no so much, and will take the whole wing in its destruction
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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2012, 10:27:12 AM »
Quote from: Noir on August 28, 2012, 02:18:34 AM
meanwhile, an A20 is taking 30mm hits as breakfast  :angel:
Unless it's from a flak.  If a Wirb sneeze's in my direction an engine goes out...
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Offline Charge

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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2012, 10:56:28 AM »
Also consider that the plane was deemed capable of divebombing with such high empty weight. Many of them were equipped with StuVi divebomb sights. However, I have not made such pull up yet that could have broken its wings off but it does not tolerate much damage when this happens.

I'd say that the max permissible loading figure for 410 may be right which makes it perfectly capable of divebombing, but the "hitpoints" against damage in wingsections do not correlate with the good loading figures and I assume that due to game mechanics these are two separate values.

Compare it with e.g. Ju88 which is also a dive bombing capable "stuka" aircraft. Ju88 is quite resilient to wing damage.

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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2012, 12:11:09 PM »
Quote from: Noir on August 30, 2012, 10:22:36 AM
the wing root seems to be very resistant to my bullets, but the outer wing no so much, and will take the whole wing in its destruction

same thing with 110, inner wing is normal but the outer section is simply for the poutsos
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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2012, 10:59:44 PM »
It gets even better.

Just reviewed film of my latest wing loss - number of 50-cal flashes to port wing and to the fuselage, starboard wing falls off despite, according to the film, not receiving a single hit.

 :bhead

Oh, and while I'm whining in my very own whine thread, the defensive guns go pop very quickly. Is there no defensive value in having that whacking great mechanism between the gunners and the bad guys?
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Offline JOACH1M

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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2012, 11:48:59 PM »
I have a 2v1 victory in the 410, Vs a yakT and a N1K. It was epic as hell. I like the 410 the way it is.
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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2012, 04:55:02 AM »
Got any tips?

I love the 103s vs heavy buffs, even with my gunnery I can knock 'em down. Against fighters, not really.
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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2012, 08:39:42 AM »
Quote from: phatzo on August 27, 2012, 11:41:08 PM
The 410 is a prime example of why the player base should not get to vote on aircraft.

I agree, we keep getting more hangar queens.
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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2012, 09:29:42 AM »
Quote from: R 105 on August 31, 2012, 08:39:42 AM
I agree, we keep getting more hangar queens.

 :headscratch: There is no logic there, players tend to vote for the biggest baddest rides. I we had more early war planes added (something that the players would never vote in majority for), you would learn the meaning of "hangar queen".
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Re: 410 wing - really?
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2012, 09:32:32 AM »
Quote from: Scherf on August 31, 2012, 04:55:02 AM
Got any tips?

I love the 103s vs heavy buffs, even with my gunnery I can knock 'em down. Against fighters, not really.
"you only get one shot do not miss your chance to blow"

You have really one try at killing a fighter after the merge is to turn hard in either direction and cut throttle and push down for the overshoot snap-shot.
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