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Offline tuton25

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Perk More Planes!!!!!
« on: August 28, 2012, 08:44:27 PM »
here are 3 reasons why:

1) To give "hanger queens" more of a chance. When's the last time you've seen a C.202 or a KI 61 flying around? In my opinion all 4 engine heavy bombers should be perked, as well as all late war fighters (i.e. P-51D, Spit 16, ect.....). also in the case of aicraft that have multiple variants (i.e. BF-109, Spitfire, ect....) the earlist one would be perk free while the next model would be slightly more expensive.

2) encouraging more variety of aircraft. The late war arena is filled with P-51D's, BF-109G-14's, Spit 16's, P-47D-11's, and B-17's. I don't think it would hurt anyone to try a new aircraft

3) Make more people want to land their plane. It would reduce the number of "Kamikaze" F4U raids off CV's and encourage people to take more realistic fuel loads.

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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 08:51:17 PM »
2) encouraging more variety of aircraft. The late war arena is filled with P-51D's, BF-109G-14's, Spit 16's, P-47D-11's, and B-17's. I don't think it would hurt anyone to try a new aircraft

I don't see any need to perk anything else... besides, since when did the P47D-11 become a very popular ride?
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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 08:52:04 PM »
You have to perk about 90% of the plane set before you will see more I-16 and C.202 around. Generally players that only fly 'hotrods' will just move up to the second best available. They won't suddenly jump into the most exotic planes.
And if you are indeed going to perk even such relatively rare planes like the G-14 and the P-47-11... what planes wiil do the new players fly?
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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 10:13:26 PM »
In addition it quickly becomes a situation in which new players are stuck trying to learn using P-40s against veteran players in Spitfire Mk XVIs.

That kills player retention.
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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 10:19:00 PM »
here are 3 reasons why:

1) To give "hanger queens" more of a chance. When's the last time you've seen a C.202 or a KI 61 flying around? In my opinion all 4 engine heavy bombers should be perked, as well as all late war fighters (i.e. P-51D, Spit 16, ect.....). also in the case of aicraft that have multiple variants (i.e. BF-109, Spitfire, ect....) the earlist one would be perk free while the next model would be slightly more expensive.
Run into Tongs and you'll be considering perking the 61   :lol
2) encouraging more variety of aircraft. The late war arena is filled with P-51D's, BF-109G-14's, Spit 16's, P-47D-11's, and B-17's. I don't think it would hurt anyone to try a new aircraft

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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 10:22:44 PM »
In addition it quickly becomes a situation in which new players are stuck trying to learn using P-40s against veteran players in Spitfire Mk XVIs.

That kills player retention.

In further addition I am thinking that flying the fabled and most talked about fighters in history like the P51, Spitfire, Me109, FW190, or LA7 into combat is why many of us joined in the first place.  Punishing that with a perk cost does not seem like a good idea.

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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2012, 08:41:13 AM »
Any documentation, statistics or maybe some cool graphs to back up this request?  :headscratch: Fly what you want, and let others do the same.  I say fly and let fly!
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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 08:45:30 AM »
-1      PLZ DON"T PERK MY PONY D!!!!!!!!    :cry
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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 08:50:54 AM »
Any documentation, statistics or maybe some cool graphs to back up this request? 



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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 10:25:07 AM »
Midwar sounds like the arena for you.
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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 10:40:48 AM »
If you want to force people (and don't mind) to fly non-perky rides perhaps every x number days (based on a players start date with AH) force a cutoff level to planes at a certain ENY.  :old:

I dont mind cuz I fly everything.  KIlls are more fun in early and mid war birds to me.
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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 10:47:46 AM »
Issue I see with forcing weaker rides to be flown is that a fair number of the vets fly weaker rides by choice already. If you force the noobs into those same rides, then theres no preformance diffrence to give them even some advantage.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2012, 12:36:17 PM »
Hell to the NO
you wanna see more EW planes, we have a nice arena labeled "Early War" try it  :D
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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 12:40:18 PM »
Should we expect a Rule #15 for no cartoons in the future?
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Re: Perk More Planes!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 12:41:01 PM »
Hell to the NO
you wanna see more EW planes, we have a nice arena labeled "Early War" try it  :D

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Issue I see with forcing weaker rides to be flown is that a fair number of the vets fly weaker rides by choice already. If you force the noobs into those same rides, then theres no preformance diffrence to give them even some advantage.


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