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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2013, 06:21:14 PM »
More punch as it would be firing AP rounds instead of HE rounds.

1 British 3in/60 Pdr rocket does 187 HE damage.  1 AP round from %75 of the 75 and 76mm AP rounds do 78 lbs damage.  Once could estimate that the 57mm AP round would do LESS than 78 lbs of damage vs an OBJ.  Granted, there is no real way of measuring which one would be more effective vs a ship, but may I suggest trying a few runs against a fleet using the Me410 and the 50mm HE that does 50 lbs of damage and see how that goes?

The Tse Tse would be fun to play with, but again I'm not sure what it would be good at.  Maybe busting gv's, but that is anyone's guess. 
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2013, 06:50:56 PM »
1 British 3in/60 Pdr rocket does 187 HE damage.  1 AP round from %75 of the 75 and 76mm AP rounds do 78 lbs damage.  Once could estimate that the 57mm AP round would do LESS than 78 lbs of damage vs an OBJ.  Granted, there is no real way of measuring which one would be more effective vs a ship, but may I suggest trying a few runs against a fleet using the Me410 and the 50mm HE that does 50 lbs of damage and see how that goes?

The Tse Tse would be fun to play with, but again I'm not sure what it would be good at.  Maybe busting gv's, but that is anyone's guess. 
Nobody should be using the 50mm or 57mm guns against anything larger than a gun emplacement.  They should be, primarily, for anti-GV work and for that the armor penetration on the 57mm AP will be significantly better than the 75mm HE.
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2013, 11:06:00 PM »
The 57mm cannon was full auto unlike the german 50mm (I think) so it could be used similarly to the Il-2's 37mm guns
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2013, 08:15:59 AM »
The 57mm cannon was full auto unlike the german 50mm (I think) so it could be used similarly to the Il-2's 37mm guns
The German 50mm is full auto.  All that means is it fires at is maximum cyclic rate if the trigger is held down.  The 57mm Molins gun had a rate of fire of slightly better than one round per second if I recall correctly.

The B-25's 75mm, on the other hand, was manually loaded and could not be operated in any kind of maneuvering situation.
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2013, 09:42:44 AM »
The German 50mm is full auto.  All that means is it fires at is maximum cyclic rate if the trigger is held down.  The 57mm Molins gun had a rate of fire of slightly better than one round per second if I recall correctly.

The B-25's 75mm, on the other hand, was manually loaded and could not be operated in any kind of maneuvering situation.

Correct, correct, and correct.  The term "full auto" is a bit over used, many think it means a high rate of fire when all it actually means is one trigger pull = multiple shots. 

I know I wouldn't want to be the reloader in a B25H when in maneuvers, the poor fellow would be bouncing from wall to wall holding a 75mm HE in his hands trying to load the breach.   :D   
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2013, 07:44:09 PM »
I can track GV's in a 410 without problems
With the added armour the mosquito xviii would be wirble killing machine!!!
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #51 on: January 06, 2013, 07:51:36 PM »
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2013, 11:29:02 PM »
The German 50mm is full auto.  All that means is it fires at is maximum cyclic rate if the trigger is held down.  The 57mm Molins gun had a rate of fire of slightly better than one round per second if I recall correctly.

The B-25's 75mm, on the other hand, was manually loaded and could not be operated in any kind of maneuvering situation.
All the videos of the 57mm gun make it seem that it shoots faster than the german 50mm. I just hope they don't modle the relibility issues.....
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2013, 12:27:39 AM »
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2013, 03:41:10 AM »
1 British 3in/60 Pdr rocket does 187 HE damage.  1 AP round from %75 of the 75 and 76mm AP rounds do 78 lbs damage.  Once could estimate that the 57mm AP round would do LESS than 78 lbs of damage vs an OBJ.  Granted, there is no real way of measuring which one would be more effective vs a ship, but may I suggest trying a few runs against a fleet using the Me410 and the 50mm HE that does 50 lbs of damage and see how that goes?

The Tse Tse would be fun to play with, but again I'm not sure what it would be good at.  Maybe busting gv's, but that is anyone's guess. 
The Mollins is supposed to have a significantly better armor penetration than the German 50mm. They sunk ships with that cannon. It was also used in air to air a few times, including in dogfights against 109s and 190s, but if I remember correctly its only flying victim was a Ju88. The rockets were indeed found to be much more effective and the numerous MK VI could carry them.

In AH the XVIII will be used against GV and as a de-acker as it will be able to snipe the ack position from a much greater distance than the 20mm. The added armor may help a little against the auto acks and GV fire up to 20mm. I doubt it will survive an Ostie 37mm hit.

Personally, I'd love to see it, as well as the Mossie XXX model. The latter will be inferior to the Mossie VI right on the deck, but I suspect that already at 10k it will start to be superior. It is a much better bomber hunter than the VI.
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2013, 09:47:17 PM »
The Mk 30 was intended to be a high altitude nightfighter/daytime escourt
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2013, 01:03:49 PM »
+2!

Mossies are cool.  We like more.

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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2013, 10:25:40 PM »
The mossie is my bird so any and all would be nice....
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2013, 09:09:44 PM »
Now HTC, how about this one......
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Re: Mosquito Mk. XVIII
« Reply #59 on: March 09, 2013, 09:50:37 PM »
Now HTC, how about this one......

Nah.  I understand the draw to it though.  It would be fun to tinker with but it offers nothing new to AH, really.  Now a Wellington, or a Beaufighter, or D520, or Tu-2, etc.... THEN we're talking.   :aok
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