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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #180 on: August 23, 2012, 01:06:23 AM »
 Slash you are like the one cop in my small town I trust and admire . This guy is honest and got guts' . He is missing the ring finger on his right hand . He lost it years ago when I was in school still . There is a small pharmacy on the edge of town that had been robbed 3 times in less than six months . They installed a silent alarm . Well on number four robbery time they trip it . First cop to respond is one that had a good career for himself right up until he barricaded him and his wife in his house for an armed standoff . He walks right in and says "we got a report of a silent alarm" . That is when the one of the 3 robbers that had just backed away from the counter with his gun concealed pointed into the ribs of a female hostage . Walked up behind him and relieved him of both of his weapons , then cuffed him . The shift supervisor is now out of the picture . Next on the scene is John Atchley . This is one of the good guys . He sees them coming out of the little store . He doesn't see Sgt. Anderson anywhere but of course knows he was the first on scene . When he tells them to halt a gunfight erupts . For the time being it is just Atchley against 3 gunmen . At some point he is hit in his right hand loses his finger and his service weapon is mangled . He pulls out a little revolver back up waepon and continues to fight . Reloading it several times one handed . A small revolver . Did I mention you can hear the metal on metal of his nutts slapping together when he walks ? He drops 2 of them and pins the third until help arrives . The man is intelligent honest and brave . Yet he never rises very far in dept. ranks . Anderson makes it to lieutenant . Go figure . Anderson screws himself when he barricades himself and his wife in his home and county has to come get him out . A town of about 15,000 he is only the first of three in a ten year span to this over an unfaithful spouse .  I think he should have lost his job when he got caught diddling a hs student in his patrol car . Lucky for him he didn't get caught until right after she turned 18 instead of when they started it at the age of 15 for her . Next was Tom Henney , then Richfield son of our then police chief . Guess it takes an armed standoff in Lebanon Oregon for a cop to go too far . Unlike Kevin Martinez the local DARE officer busted with a large amount of cocaine . After treatment he was back on the force and now heads our detective squad . Then there is Willie Setszer . The city due to a large amount of high speed pursuits buys a Camaro for a pursuit car . While street racing it he T-Bones a kid pulling out of McDonalds and the kid will walk with a limp for the rest of his life . Not content with crippling a kid for life Willie makes up a story and blames it all on the kid . Well his folks had money so they hire a P.I. The whole story falls apart and the price Willie has to pay ? A one year suspension . No criminal charges . Well at least he now works over in Corvallis . I included names and enough info. so anyone that doubts me can research and check my work . Oh lets not stop at the cops . A few years back the local judge had to do a few weeks or months in jail for coercing female defendants into sexual favors .Larry Houchin is his name . I have paid the price for standing up to these thugs a few times over the years . Been charged with all kinds of made up stuff . Brawled with them twice . The last time finally earning myself a criminal record . The only reason I have that is because of mandatory sentencing Shuffler . Measure 11 had me looking at one of those 20 year sentences . Believe me length of prison sentence was not something I was thinking about when I decided I was not going to tolerate the illegal orders or the abuse any longer . My only thought was I am retired less than two years from defending what these guys are urinating all over . BS ! I plead to menacing <misdemeanor> so I would not have face the possibility of 10-20 years in prison . Out of state because my wife at the time was a corrections officer for the state . To give you an idea of how out of line the 7 officers I fought were . I got 2 years bench probation no fine no jail time . I broke one cops arm . Martinez got his head split open and a bad concussion still carries the scar quite visible over his eye to this day . The other 5 had similar lumped onions and strained limbs . The only two that didn't get lumped up were the State Patrolman that finally showed up . These boys knew what they were doing . They pretty quickly had me under control . I would like to say that it was because I had been fighting for almost 10 minutes by then , but I am pretty sure it would have been the same if they were the first two instead of the last two that night . Although I have a hunch it never would have happened if they had been the first two I had interaction with that night of Martinez and O'Malley . Sorry for the length .
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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #181 on: August 23, 2012, 01:18:06 AM »
Slash I will make any kind of statement anywhere you want me to if I need to make amends to you . I always figured you for one of the good guys . When you called the incident that started the thread a mistake . I KNEW you are one of the good guys . I would ride the river  , share a two man defensive position or go Squatching with you any time . Not once would I worry about my back . Well unless we had been away from civilization for too long and you had begun taking long lust filled gazes at me . That has more to do with you being a Muppet than a cop . :bolt:

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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #182 on: August 23, 2012, 02:33:43 AM »
Slash I will make any kind of statement anywhere you want me to if I need to make amends to you . I always figured you for one of the good guys . When you called the incident that started the thread a mistake . I KNEW you are one of the good guys . I would ride the river  , share a two man defensive position or go Squatching with you any time . Not once would I worry about my back . Well unless we had been away from civilization for too long and you had begun taking long lust filled gazes at me . That has more to do with you being a Muppet than a cop . :bolt:

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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #183 on: August 24, 2012, 07:44:11 PM »
Your chances of running into a bad cop are much less if you don't do anything to attract their attention.


Words of wisdom right there I tell ya . Took me a long time to figure that one out , lol .
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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #184 on: August 25, 2012, 01:29:43 AM »
Your chances of running into a bad cop are much less if you don't do anything to attract their attention.



yup but what are the chances of a bad cop running into you?

navy vet gets shot in her backyard by police officer.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/family-navy-vet-shot-startled-deputy-seeks-answers-193729306.html

I two rules to avoid a bad cop:

#1 dont answer the door in the middle of the night.
#2 dont go in the back yard in the middle of the morning.

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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #185 on: August 25, 2012, 10:55:32 AM »
Slash I will make any kind of statement anywhere you want me to if I need to make amends to you . I always figured you for one of the good guys . When you called the incident that started the thread a mistake . I KNEW you are one of the good guys . I would ride the river  , share a two man defensive position or go Squatching with you any time . Not once would I worry about my back . Well unless we had been away from civilization for too long and you had begun taking long lust filled gazes at me . That has more to do with you being a Muppet than a cop . :bolt:

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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #186 on: August 27, 2012, 09:13:19 PM »
Your chances of running into a bad cop are much less if you don't do anything to attract their attention.

Just because this is true, doesn't give them the right...  :noid of course...
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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #187 on: August 28, 2012, 02:22:47 AM »
Slash I will make any kind of statement anywhere you want me to if I need to make amends to you . I always figured you for one of the good guys . When you called the incident that started the thread a mistake . I KNEW you are one of the good guys . I would ride the river  , share a two man defensive position or go Squatching with you any time . Not once would I worry about my back . Well unless we had been away from civilization for too long and you had begun taking long lust filled gazes at me . That has more to do with you being a Muppet than a cop . :bolt:
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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #188 on: August 28, 2012, 11:04:50 AM »
I don't think this was true outside of the larger cities.  I'm sure the small podunk 1 bar / 1 stopsign towns the cops weren't on much of if any take.

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Ohhhhh some small towns with one cop, one sheriff, one jail cell, were much worse. No checks & balances, fox guarding chicken-house etc. Also 50+ years ago, if a cop "Thumped" you, most folks figured, you had it coming, or you were poor/black etc. & it was OK to kick your arse.... :old:
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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #189 on: August 30, 2012, 09:58:58 AM »
I tell ya the cops are not that bad around here you don't never see them but the Gamewardens are not to mess with . Most look like they came right out of Vietnam  with 2 to 4 side arms on each one . I get harassed two to three times a year by them . They don't need a warrant to search your truck or home eather .
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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #190 on: August 30, 2012, 11:48:29 AM »
I tell ya the cops are not that bad around here you don't never see them but the Gamewardens are not to mess with . Most look like they came right out of Vietnam  with 2 to 4 side arms on each one . I get harassed two to three times a year by them . They don't need a warrant to search your truck or home eather .

Same here, although ours have always been friendly and professional to me, their ability to run over the bill of rights has not been seriously brought into question through the courts yet.  Then again everyone seems to strongly believe in the importance of conservation.
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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #191 on: August 31, 2012, 02:49:13 PM »
There not so friendly around here . I had them check me 3 time's in one day in 2009 . It's not just me they treat all the people around here the same way and if your out of town you have not a prayer .
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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #192 on: September 01, 2012, 07:24:17 PM »
I tell ya the cops are not that bad around here you don't never see them but the Gamewardens are not to mess with . Most look like they came right out of Vietnam  with 2 to 4 side arms on each one . I get harassed two to three times a year by them . They don't need a warrant to search your truck or home eather .

Yes they do need a warrant...unless they have probable cause.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #193 on: September 01, 2012, 07:27:10 PM »
There not so friendly around here . I had them check me 3 time's in one day in 2009 . It's not just me they treat all the people around here the same way and if your out of town you have not a prayer .

We had a couple abusive game wardens up here in Idaho that earned a reputation...screwed with the wrong mountain man & made him a strange kinda mountain folk hero who could not be imprisoned in Idaho because of all the death threats. Took years to catch him, then he escaped. :bolt:



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Re: Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door
« Reply #194 on: September 01, 2012, 08:13:41 PM »
Until about four years ago a Texas Game Warden did have authority to search a residence as well as a vehicle or any other area where he/she believed there may be evidence of illegal game.  The law was changed to exclude residences, including tents, where now they do have to get a search warrant for most any type of dwelling.  As for Probable Cause, it is the foundation of any search warrant.  You can not get the warrant without establishing the Probable Cause in an affidavit. 

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