A horde or just not discipline formation flying?

[Debrody]

Thats one thing, flying a jabo mission and blow up some cheit or escort some bombers. That can be fun, both for the attacker and the defender.
An other is, climbing up to 20k with 10-15 wingmen, fly over a base and gang every single upper, withouth any willing to actually fight: if it comes to a co-e 1v1, they just run til they find a friend, then the double team starts again. I found this behaviour to be very common in the MAs, even against a lone Dora, even from people who used to be excellent fights before.

This makes me sad.

[LCADolby]

It's irritating as hell Deb 

[68EZPkns]

The SOLE purpose of this game is to engage other players in combat. Avoiding head on engagements so you can bomb inanimate objects with impunity and take away any chance the enemy has to defend whatsoever is not in line with the purpose stated above. But it's your fifteen bucks so do what you want.

Whether you fly a tight formation or not is completely irrelevant.
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The sole purpose of the Main arena to to capture bases and win the map.The DA is for 1 on 1 combat.And overwhelming force is the best way to do that.I dont understand people being upset with a "horde".All 3 sides do it.Any means justifies the ends,to capture bases.If im going to a base to kill dar and ord thn that is my 1st priority,not engage someone in a 1 on 1 dogfight.Not that there isnt a time and place for that in MA.

[ink]

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The sole purpose of the Main arena to to capture bases and win the map.The DA is for 1 on 1 combat.And overwhelming force is the best way to do that.I dont understand people being upset with a "horde".All 3 sides do it.Any means justifies the ends,to capture bases.If im going to a base to kill dar and ord thn that is my 1st priority,not engage someone in a 1 on 1 dogfight.Not that there isnt a time and place for that in MA.

wrong

[68EZPkns]

Im wrong?Then why not just make all the bases uncapturable if that is the case.No you are wrong.

[68EZPkns]

But I have no problems with how anyone plays the game.Its their money and they can play as they wish.But to go into MA and complain cause some chose to play as the arena is designed,to capture bases and win the map is just silly.

[ink]

Im wrong?Then why not just make all the bases uncapturable if that is the case.No you are wrong.

sorry.... but you are wrong....the reason for the MA is virtual COMBAT...land.... sea....... air....COMBAT....

the war is to promote COMBAT.....

seeings how the guy who made the game said basically exactly that....ill take his word for it...over yours.


it is after all a PvP COMBAT game durrrrrrr..

gee fellas lets log in to a Massive Multi player game.....just to avoid the other players......

[68EZPkns]

The combat comes as a result of one side trying to stop the otherside from capturing their bases.But the object is to capture the othersides bases.If that wasnt so then why make the bases capturable.Thats like saying the object of football is just to run ,pass and catch the ball,not score more points.

[whiteman]

And here i thought the whole purpose of the game was to have fun.

[68EZPkns]

The fun comes as a result of the combat incured whn one side tries to take bases from another.
Maybe hitech should add a "free for all" arena.Fighter ace used to have one and was very popular.

[ink]

The combat comes as a result of one side trying to stop the otherside from capturing their bases.But the object is to capture the othersides bases.If that wasnt so then why make the bases capturable.Thats like saying the object of football is just to run ,pass and catch the ball,not score more points.

 

if thats the case...then why are there 3 sides that are NOT even.....football is a very poor comparison. 

the point to the game is virtual combat and yes as whiteman says having fun while engaging in said combat....this is NOT war.... war suks....this is a game......a game about virtual combat.....base taking was ADDED to promote combat....

no matter how you try to spin it.....the facts remain the same.

AH is a game designed for virtual combat using WW2 equipment...we are not replaying WW2....we are engaging in a game that evolves around virtual combat.

The fun comes as a result of the combat incured whn one side tries to take bases from another.
Maybe hitech should add a "free for all" arena.Fighter ace used to have one and was very popular.

maybe you should play WW2online

The MA is a Free for all arena

[Sunka]

I haven't palyed that long, only a couple of months. I really enjoy the MA arena and doing missions on the Bish side. One thing I see a lot of on the BBS is various compliants about the way people play (hordes, HOing, Campers, BnZ, etc). Basiclly when someone is bested (shot down) by a style they don't subscribe too, they claim some sort of "style" that is inferior to the way they play.
So about the Bish Hording compliant... What if the 40 Lancs or various bombers that are hordes, flew in perfect formation? What if the 50 p-51's were organzied into tight 4 ship flights and operated as a cohesive unit? Would it be a horde then? probably not
The fact is that most people lack the ability to fly in tight formation and join a mission that is loosely put together. It is hard enough to get people to join mission, let alone have them fly in an authentic manner. So whay not look at the "hordes" as a valid style of people who want to work together and lack the ability to fly together perfectly?
If the hordes are so bad why not find a way to defeat them? If 5 good pilots can down the 50 in the horde; do it and enjoy all the perks. Stop complaining about they limited ability of new players that "horde".

The only issue i have is newer players with limited skills that STAY in hordes bnz, vulch and Ho never learn anything more and stick to not learning how to fight well, playing with only number of kills in mind and not the fun of a fight.

[68EZPkns]

Well you play as you choose,its your money.I choose to play to win the map and that requires I shoot down planes,blow up tanks,destroy ground objects.And there is a carrot at the end of that stick.The winners of the map get perkies.
Word of advice dont bring that sword to a gunfight.

[Sunka]

Well you play as you choose,its your money.I choose to play to win the map and that requires I shoot down planes,blow up tanks,destroy ground objects.And there is a carrot at the end of that stick.The winners of the map get perkies.
Word of advice dont bring that sword to a gunfight.

Perks ....

[Triton28]

The point of the game is... whatever you want it to be.

INK likes to fight.  He doesn't really fly buffs, doesn't care for GV'ing.  He likes upping a KI, getting all sweaty and flush while pwning and dying.   

Others like to take bases, bomb stuff, GV, hoarde, talk trash on 200, audition for NASA, pick, HO, up a PT boat, fire 8 inchers, vulch, etc.   

While some of the above isn't my cup of tea, I must be in the minority when I say I like to fight,  take bases, AND win the war.  Sometimes I'm only up to do one or the other and sometimes I'm doing one while I do the others.  It really just depends on my blood/alcohol level, moon phase, and allotted time to play.   

Seriously... I've seen a few too many of these type of discussions lately.  It's silly.  Play the game.  HTC and the supporting players have put a lot of time and effort in to giving us all just about any option we could want.