Delay fuse bombs

[Tank-Ace]

As someone already stated: These would be PERFECT and actually would be historically accurate in term of low level Mossi attacks.   

Yes, but the issue is we would have a bunch of ball-less tards running around dropping bombs to kill a pursuer, or going out hunting aircraft with these bombs unless they were rather heavily controlled.

[gyrene81]

Yes, but the issue is we would have a bunch of ball-less tards running around dropping bombs to kill a pursuer, or going out hunting aircraft with these bombs unless they were rather heavily controlled.

don't fool yerself, there are a lot of ball-less tards doing other things much more annoying... the "pursuit frag" tactic can be avoided several ways so it won't be that big of a deal. it will end up being like the ho whines, people getting their panties wadded up for something really trivial.

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We don't have planes sitting on the runway, these para frags would not destroy tanks unless possibly a perfect hit on top (doubtful even). Far as town goes just how much can one little bomb do? an Ack gun?

I can see delay fused bombs used on 109s and 190s - 250kg bombs which were dropped above formations, this is only thing I can think of that might actually work.

If in the future - we had runways with aircrafts lined up along side of it, it would make perfect sense... Aces high I can only see it damaging a small row of buildings in town..

nobody is talking about para frags...just the existing bombs with delayble fuses so they don't go off in impact.

[Butcher]

nobody is talking about para frags...just the existing bombs with delayble fuses so they don't go off in impact.

I'm kind of at a loss, Wern't HE bombs exploding on contact bombs?

I know there were different ordnance, but I was assuming he was talking about Para Frags - which makes sense for delayable fuse bombs - but how is that going to work in Aces high? And can it be done?

[gyrene81]

i wouldn't sweat it Butcher, aside from being useful for clearing campers out of hangars, it would end up just being a gamey feature people would abuse.

[Triton28]

...it would end up just being a gamey feature people would abuse.

To me it's not gamey.  P-47 pilots used delay fuse bombs in WWII so they could drop from tree top level on tanks, etc and not blow themselves up.

Also, "frag pursuit killing" would be sort of hard to do I would think.  The timing and circumstances would have to be pretty spot on for it to work.

[guncrasher]

To me it's not gamey.  P-47 pilots used delay fuse bombs in WWII so they could drop from tree top level on tanks, etc and not blow themselves up.

Also, "frag pursuit killing" would be sort of hard to do I would think.  The timing and circumstances would have to be pretty spot on for it to work.

ever been killed by a tree while chasing somebody?  we dont need no bombs just packets of seeds and water we can throw out the window.  easiest kills ever.


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[gyrene81]

To me it's not gamey.  P-47 pilots used delay fuse bombs in WWII so they could drop from tree top level on tanks, etc and not blow themselves up.

Also, "frag pursuit killing" would be sort of hard to do I would think.  The timing and circumstances would have to be pretty spot on for it to work.

you wouldn't mind providing chapter and verse hard evidence on those delayed fuses used by the p-47 squadrons would you?

the good ole "frag pursuit kill" is fairly easy to accomplish actually, just learning the timings is all it takes.

[SmokinLoon]

I'm not visualizing people getting in to a low level dogfight and then dropping a delay fused bomb to get a kill.  I'm just not able to get that one figured out.      If it did happen, it wouldn't be any different than the gamey 163's dogfighting 3 sectors away from their home field; tanks shooting down aircraft with their main gun; or heavy bombers floating over gv spawns at 1000 ft waiting for the chance to carpet bomb a single tank.  If the addition of the bomb would be historically accurate than I say add it.

I believe the argument to add them in outweighs the possible gamey "drop for a kill".   

[icepac]

Any former warbirds pilot knows the dfuse frag bombing a pursuer is a huge issue.

I'd rather not have it show up here.

[Triton28]

you wouldn't mind providing chapter and verse hard evidence on those delayed fuses used by the p-47 squadrons would you?

the good ole "frag pursuit kill" is fairly easy to accomplish actually, just learning the timings is all it takes.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Hell-Hawks/Robert-F-Dorr/e/9780760329184

The authors make several references to it's usage throughout the book.  I'd have to check, but I'm almost positive several of the first hand accounts published within reference it too.  Mostly when the fuse didn't act as intended.    

Pretty cool read too.   

[Babalonian]

Yes, but the issue is we would have a bunch of ball-less tards running around dropping bombs to kill a pursuer too blind to see it hanging like a half-ton of bricks in broad daylight, or too dumb to not on-point or lag-persuit at too great of a distance to distinguish a half-ton of bricks hanging off the plane or not, or going out hunting aircraft with these bombs unless they were rather heavily controlled because nobody gets rocket or bomb vulched on runways currently in AH.

Not saying there isn't any foreseeable issue, but yours (and apparently many other's) is not one of them (at least, in a unilateral sense... it takes two to HO after all).

Seriously, listen to you guys, you're all too incapable and untalented to see a large bomb dangling off a plane like... well... like you guys couldn't tell the difference between a cow and bull if we removed all their horns?... or what if you were persuing him on the deck and saw him drop it?... aparently you're all really easy kills too because none of you can react to avoid a delay blast radius (ontop of it's actual airborne drop time) fast enough to a visual que directly in your tunelled-down vision off your nose?  Lets meet in the DA tonight, I'll even buy an extra 6-pack tonight to dumb down my reaction time to yours.

[tuton25]

Here is more proof that it was used extensivly. If you fast forward to about 12:40 you will see that they were not more than 100ft off the ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQn2shAH4sE&feature=BFa&list=PLEF44F53CBA5BACAF
I would take formations of Mossie 16's 25-50 AGL and bomb towns with it.

Mossie pilots used to say that this tactic was "like putting bombs in Hitler's front door"

[titanic3]

Here is more proof that it was used extensivly. If you fast forward to about 12:40 you will see that they were not more than 100ft off the ground.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQn2shAH4sE&feature=BFa&list=PLEF44F53CBA5BACAF
I would take formations of Mossie 16's 25-50 AGL and bomb towns with it.

Mossie pilots used to say that this tactic was "like putting bombs in Hitler's front door"

Hmm...seems like a rather expensive way to die with all the speed demon planes in the game.

[tuton25]

If they would unperk the mossie 16 it'd work a little better

[icepac]

Not saying there isn't any foreseeable issue, but yours (and apparently many other's) is not one of them (at least, in a unilateral sense... it takes two to HO after all).

Seriously, listen to you guys, you're all too incapable and untalented to see a large bomb dangling off a plane like... well... like you guys couldn't tell the difference between a cow and bull if we removed all their horns?... or what if you were persuing him on the deck and saw him drop it?... aparently you're all really easy kills too because none of you can react to avoid a delay blast radius (ontop of it's actual airborne drop time) fast enough to a visual que directly in your tunelled-down vision off your nose?  Lets meet in the DA tonight, I'll even buy an extra 6-pack tonight to dumb down my reaction time to yours.

I guess you never dealt with this issue in warbirds.