US Ambassador to Libya and 3 US Marines Killed.

[Shuffler]

Did you just say, "Dude"???


Seems that the Afghan Opium trade is booming again..
I suppose somebody is making money from that..
Was that worth the life of my child??

Sorry you lost your child. He evidently thought it was worth it.

[Nathan60]

lol, you know what international outrage would occur if americans did the same thing to the libyan ambassador in d.c.? hell our own government would have a manhunt for ever person involved.

thats becaus ewe are civilized

[Tupac]

thats becaus ewe are civilized

This is what a good friend of mine posted on Facebook in regards to the film.

I believe its irrelevant at to who made the film and what its message is. Two issues come to mind.

First is pointing the finger at the film, no matter how inflammatory it is, even just to mitigate the actions of those that attacked our embassies, is tantamount to pointing the finger at the seductive dress of a woman, to mitigate her rapists actions .

I'd also point out how people of other religions handle such situations.

Many in the Jewish community found Mel Gibson s movie " The Passion of the Christ" to be offensive. Those that did dealt with it by boycotting the movie, writing letters to the editor etc. Text books in many mid east Muslim countries teach that Jewish people are descendant from Apes (and not in the Darwin sense if you get my drift.) They name elementary schools honoring Terrorist, homicide bombers. No Jewish groups have stormed and set fire to the embassies and consulates or murdered the Ambassadors and diplomates of those Muslim countries.

Many in the Christian community are offended by art that shows the crucifix in a glass of urine, they write to their gov't representatives to request funding be cut off from the program that funded the project, they picketed and protested.

One of my favorite authors wrote a book called "Under the banner of Heaven" which was highly critical of the Mormon religion and church authorities. Mormons boycotted the book disputed its content etc. They did not put out a "hit" on the author.

Not one of those religions resorted to mass acts of violence. There will of course be individuals in any group that let their beliefs and passion over take their restraint and commit acts of violence, I believe the groups or religion to which those individuals affiliate usually condemn their actions.

So I have a real problem with blaming the film. To boot I don't think that I have heard anyone actually defend the film, say that they like it or otherwise. I have not seen it so I can't say.

[Grayeagle]

Technology being what it is these days ..
..all that is needed is GPS coords and murderers *can* get what they have earned.

In spades.

The days of long range aircraft delivery (Aardvarks, f'rinstance ..re: QaDaffy) are long past.

-Frank aka GE

[NatCigg]

I like to think there are many more Libyans who are thankfull for the help they have been given than there are terrorists who want to destroy us.
Same goes for our other efforts around the world.
The guy with the gun has the most power, evil will always find a gun.
<S> American Service Men

we all need to eat, sleep, and love or we will all hate.

God bless those on the front lines.
 

[Bodhi]

According to Turkish News, the Ambassador, Chris Stevens, did not die of "smoke inhalation" but rather wounds sustained during the attack which included RPG's and explosives.

The link to the news article: (be warned, there are graphic pictures)

http://www.nationalturk.com/en/american-ambassador-chris-stevens-killed-in-libya-protest-over-anti-islamic-movie-ridiculing-muhammad-25597

[Babalonian]

Well, back when the "Libyan Revolution" was all over the news..
I remember their rebel general on video, (a known Al Qaeda operative)
bragging about killing American troops.. Saying, how the Americans will
help us kill Qaddafi, then we will go back to killing Americans..
While US and NATO planes are flying airstrikes in support of them..

He was saying this right in the open, about the same time Panetta and the
Joint Chiefs were telling Congress that they did not need approval of
congress to make war.. They get their Authorization from the UN???
And the Prez, tellin us he doesn't need to follow the law in the Constitution!

I remember when people used to freak out, about the possibility of
terrorists getting "guided missiles".. Now the Black Al Qaeda flag is
flying in Libya Tunisia Egypt Syria.. Now they are running those
Governments and Militaries.. (not Syria yet) Now they have all the Guided
missiles they want.. Qaddafi just bought the newest euro SAM's too..
And we just rearmed Egypt, didn't we???

So now "Egyptian" M1 Abrams are rollin to Isreali border in the Sinai..
No wonder the Israelis are so happy with us right now huh???

So now they have American weapons too...
People were warning about this, but no one would listen..
Ole Qaddafi, is lookin pretty good about now, isn't he???

Gotta ask, just who is running the show in DC, huh???
 

Kettle meet pot?...

[Tracerfi]

Damn Libyans 

[uptown]

Why is this act not an act of war?! We need to just wipe these roaches out once and for all!  

[SmokinLoon]

Damn Libyans 

I think it has more to do with religion than a particular nationality.  Just a guess. 

[Sundowner]

Where are the Islamist moderates condemning the barbarous acts carried out in Libya?


Quote from: RngFndr on Today at 08:30:05 AM
Well, back when the "Libyan Revolution" was all over the news..
I remember their rebel general on video, (a known Al Qaeda operative)
bragging about killing American troops.. Saying, how the Americans will
help us kill Qaddafi, then we will go back to killing Americans..
While US and NATO planes are flying airstrikes in support of them..

He was saying this right in the open, about the same time Panetta and the
Joint Chiefs were telling Congress that they did not need approval of
congress to make war.. They get their Authorization from the UN???
And the Prez, tellin us he doesn't need to follow the law in the Constitution!

I remember when people used to freak out, about the possibility of
terrorists getting "guided missiles".. Now the Black Al Qaeda flag is
flying in Libya Tunisia Egypt Syria.. Now they are running those
Governments and Militaries.. (not Syria yet) Now they have all the Guided
missiles they want.. Qaddafi just bought the newest euro SAM's too..
And we just rearmed Egypt, didn't we???

So now "Egyptian" M1 Abrams are rollin to Isreali border in the Sinai..
No wonder the Israelis are so happy with us right now huh???

So now they have American weapons too...
People were warning about this, but no one would listen..
Ole Qaddafi, is lookin pretty good about now, isn't he???

Gotta ask, just who is running the show in DC, huh???


RngFndr gets it.
Those that are asleep don't realize we are on the verge of WW3.
It's difficult to connect the dot's when all you are concerned about is what new "app' you just got and who is on "Dancing with the Swamp People" tonight. When the defecation finally hits the rotary air circulation device they will change their tune about "conspiracy theorys" and smugly claim they saw it coming all along.

Regards,
Sun

[Babalonian]

Oh, Lordy.... yeah, our foreign relations are better now than they've ever been for the last 11-years, so clearly we've never been closer to WWIII than we are today?... 

[coombz]

Sorry you lost your child. He evidently thought it was worth it.

It was obviously worth it, terrorism has been defeated and the people of the Middle East have been freed from the yoke of oppressive regimes, right?

right

[GScholz]

Terrorism, like all evils, can never be defeated, only fought... in perpetuity. As for how people live in the Middle East... Who gives a [explicit].

[coombz]

the way you guys are fighting it seems to be increasing the numbers of terrorists rather than reducing them

I agree, who gives a crap about people in the middle east, they're the wrong religion and the wrong skin colour, we just need their oil