Barak in Pep Talk with F-15 Pilots: Be Sharp

[Motherland]

It'll be interesting to see how much Israel keeps up their posturing and stick-poking as the US becomes increasingly unwilling to remain their lap dog.

[bozon]

It'll be interesting to see how much Israel keeps up their posturing and stick-poking as the US becomes increasingly unwilling to remain their lap dog.

The US also objected to the strikes on the Iraqi and Syrian reactors. Israel decided to go ahead anyway. While in the Syrian case the US gave some sort of approval by turning its back and looking the other way, in the Iraqi case Israel was publicly condemned by the US. It seems like the usual US policy is that as long as it is not killing Americans right now, or god forbids threatens American economic interests, the best course of action is to stick their heads in the sand. The ironic thing is that this policy actually worked in the Iraqi and Syrian cases mentioned above, since while the heads were in the sand, Israel defused the situation.

The Iranian case is significantly more difficult than the above two, otherwise Israel would have already struck and accept the condemnations. Does the US have a spare carrier it can "lend" to Israel for a couple of weeks? Then again "lending" may be too active. The US can just leave the carrier parked in the east Mediterranean near Haifa bay with the keys in the ignition. Then report it was stolen and add "theft" to the post-strike condemnation.




edit:
Forgot about N-Korea. Unfortunately, Korea is way too far from Israel, so in that case the head in the sand strategy did not work. I guess you win some, you lose some.

[fbEagle]

The US has seems to have lost some of its back bone in the Obama administration. It will be interesting however to see how Obama's foreign policies will change once he doesn't have to worry about being reelected. Unfortunately this is what our nation has come down to. The vast majority of people in the United states are so uneducated on foreign affairs its frightening. This puts the government in a tough spot. The administration recognizes the need to act with military force. However the American people are so unaware of world affairs that they see the administration as a group of warmongers and instantly make up their mind to vote them out of office. But back to the topic, GO ISRAEL!!

[zack1234]

"God forbid threatens American economic interests" strange term.

American economic interests are paramount in any situation and that goes for any country.

Thats why countries got to war

[Motherland]

The US also objected to the strikes on the Iraqi and Syrian reactors. Israel decided to go ahead anyway. While in the Syrian case the US gave some sort of approval by turning its back and looking the other way, in the Iraqi case Israel was publicly condemned by the US. It seems like the usual US policy is that as long as it is not killing Americans right now, or god forbids threatens American economic interests, the best course of action is to stick their heads in the sand. The ironic thing is that this policy actually worked in the Iraqi and Syrian cases mentioned above, since while the heads were in the sand, Israel defused the situation.

The Iranian case is significantly more difficult than the above two, otherwise Israel would have already struck and accept the condemnations. Does the US have a spare carrier it can "lend" to Israel for a couple of weeks? Then again "lending" may be too active. The US can just leave the carrier parked in the east Mediterranean near Haifa bay with the keys in the ignition. Then report it was stolen and add "theft" to the post-strike condemnation.




edit:
Forgot about N-Korea. Unfortunately, Korea is way too far from Israel, so in that case the head in the sand strategy did not work. I guess you win some, you lose some.

I don't see how sticking your hands into places where they have no business being is 'sticking your head in the sand'.
The carrier idea may work, though, Israel has been known to take out their disapproval on our navy when we tug on the leash.

[zack1234]

Israel does what its told like every other country does

[Motherland]

Israel does what its told like every other country does

By who?
War crimes, blatant fascism and theocracy, war mongering and posturing, countless assassinations in foreign territory... the United States would've 'freed' Israel a la Iraq or Afghanistan if it were any other country, but instead we pay Israel billions of dollars a year to have a military. The most that ever happens to them is a slap on the wrist from the UN or a 'now now, you shouldn't be doing that' from the US, and they clearly don't care in the slightest. US-Israeli relations remind me of the relationship between Eric and his mother in Southpark.

[zack1234]

Another angry bloke

Tin foil hat time

What do you think of Swiss?.... anything?

[Motherland]

Another angry bloke

Tin foil hat time

What do you think of Swiss?.... anything?

Nice little country that doesn't cause any trouble. The Swiss military I think is the perfect picture of how a defense force should be structured and designed.

There's no tinfoil hat here, I don't believe in NWO, ZOG or any of that nonsense.
But the way Israel acts is unacceptable.
None of this stuff is kept secret, you don't have to find webpages in the depths of the internet to see it described... it's all out there everyday. People know it happens and for some ungodly reason so many people just find it acceptable.

[zack1234]

I rest my case:old:

[Nathan60]

What do you think of Swiss?.... anything?

I got some Chipolte cheddar jack other day it was amazing! Awsome on turkey.

[RTHolmes]

US-Israeli relations remind me of the relationship between Eric and his mother in Southpark.

 

[Seanaldinho]

Why dont we let the generals deal with war stuff and the president deal with non war stuff? I never quite understood that part... 

Then again Im a fan of a flat percentage tax...

[Motherland]

I rest my case:old:

Honestly, my opinion on Israel is pretty mainstream and even in the US we have our share of people who are very critical of Israel.
It's becoming clear that around the world this is an increasing trend and Israel is using up much of the pity it was formed with. The US and even the EU in the past couple months have... well, compared to past relations, spit in Israel's face, with the EU's refusal to blacklist Hezbollah and Obama's refusal to meet with Netanyahu recently.
I see this as an extremely positive trend in world affairs.

[SmokinLoon]

 

It appears we have someone who is very anti-Israel, isn't very educated as to how and why things are the way they are in that region, and have has plenty of a certain kind of kool-aid to drink. 

Oh.... and something was mentioned regarding the Swiss being a "nice little country" that causes no trouble....  perhaps that is true on the outside, but behind closed door the Swiss are very good at playing off 2 sides and profiting from both.  On a different note, the Swiss military is a good model, yes, but it has a much different society than most civilizations.  The Swiss are superior in many ways to every other nation state in the world, however they lack a navy so they are not invited to play.