Barak in Pep Talk with F-15 Pilots: Be Sharp

[guncrasher]

Another angry bloke

Tin foil hat time

What do you think of Swiss?.... anything?

the difference between Switzerland and Israel is that Switzerland is surrounded by countries that want to invade with sacks of money.


semp

[zack1234]

I rest my case

The US have been leaning on them for years with thier behind the scenes dealings with dodgy countries.

While your all looking out of your front doors for the peasant view of the world I would be looking at your back door at who is really up to no good.

The Swiss are laughing at you, staying neutral and letting everyone else defend Democracy.

This is why we need a class system because people are still peasants.

I blame it on that Charlie Chaplin bloke and his funny walk

[Vulcan]

The day is drawing near.

Our world will soon change in ways most of us can't foresee.
Godspeed IDF F-15 Double Tail Squadron.

Regards,
Sun

Barak in Pep Talk with F-15 Pilots: Be Sharp
No mention of Iran, but Defense Minister's toast to F-15 pilots leaves little doubt what he meant.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak raised a toast to the Jewish New Year in an IAF F-15 squadron hangar – in what may be a hint of things to come, and a possible message to Iran that it is not safe from attack. While he never mentioned Iran's name, his words left little doubt what he was referring to.

In the course of the ceremony at Tel Nof IAF base, Barak said: "We have experiences huge tectonic shifts in the entire region in the past year. These shifts create challenges that are among the most complex we have ever faced – both from very close range and from very far away – and these challenges create a need to act and to be ready for action.

"You are here, the Air Force in general and the Double Tail squadron that sits here in these hangars in particular, at the spear's tip of the State of Israel's ability to act at any range."

Barak said that the political tier sees as part of its responsibility to ensure that if wars can be delayed they will be, and if they are embarked upon it is only after all other options have been exhausted, "but we do not live in western Europe and not in North America, this is really a harsh environment, it really is 'a villa in a jungle' and there are hostile forces around us as well."

"The state of Israel in general, the Air Force in particular and this squadron, need and must be highly alert at all times, sharp, determined, precise, so that if there is a necessity to act, we will act and succeed."

"We, myself included, as well as the senior commanders and the citizens of Israel, have faith in you, that if there is indeed a need to act, you will take action and win."

(Photos at site)
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/159870#.UFD-SPXwCxC

It's retarded attitudes and statements like this that keep that nutjob iranian president in power.

[zack1234]

I thought they elected him?

[bozon]

I thought they elected him?

The Iranians voted, yes. Who they elected is anybody's guess, but they rioted when Ahmadinajad was announced as the election winner - and silenced in other than democratic ways.

By who?
War crimes, blatant fascism and theocracy, war mongering and posturing, countless assassinations in foreign territory... the United States would've 'freed' Israel a la Iraq or Afghanistan if it were any other country, but instead we pay Israel billions of dollars a year to have a military.

The US is doing everything it used to officially denounce Israel for. Assassinations in foreign territory? I wonder what happened to Bin Laden. Do you even count the number of assassinations from armed US drones? Before the Invasion to Iraq, American officers came to Israel to study urban warfare methods that Israel used very successfully in 2002 in an operation ironically called "Defensive wall". For every war crime you blame Israel, the US did more. Most of these are simply the reality of warefare and to think you can fight a war otherways and win is naive.

Nice little country that doesn't cause any trouble. The Swiss military I think is the perfect picture of how a defense force should be structured and designed.

The Swiss army is a parade army. Do you really think that what kept Switzerland peaceful for 300 years is their fearsome army?
<joke> They still use Halberds to defend the Pope fer cod sake! </joke>

[zack1234]

They voted for that bloke in Afganistan is he alright?

Syria they voted for him as well.

Saudi Arabia they voted there as well?

This Pro Democracy thing is it any good on the Middle East?

[Tank-Ace]

The Swiss army is a parade army. Do you really think that what kept Switzerland peaceful for 300 years is their fearsome army?

For their possition on the map, their army is sufficient. Untill recently (say, since modern aircraft and the paratrooper came along), any invasion would cost more than the land gained would be worth.


Wouldn't take much to seal off those mountian passes

[zack1234]

They control the Banks

[bozon]

They control the Banks

Israel controls the "west bank", but that is not much help. Oddly, not a lot of money in it either.

[zack1234]

Oddly enough I have no money

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

Zack, there is a saying.

If you give a man a gun, he can rob a bank. If you give a man a bank, he can rob the world.

[zack1234]

"Nothing like debt to get a man up in the morning" is another one

"If voting changed anything they would ban it" is a good one

[Sundowner]

Chorus:
The beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de de, la de da de da

Charleston was once the rage, uh huh
History has turned the page, uh huh
The mini skirts the current thing, uh huh
Teenybopper is our newborn king, uh huh

Chorus

The grocery store's the super mart, uh huh
Little girls still break their hearts, uh huh
And men still keep on marching off to war
Electrically they keep a baseball score

Chorus

Grandmas sit in chairs and reminisce
Boys keep chasing girls to get a kiss
The cars keep going faster all the time
Bums still cry "hey buddy, have you got a dime"

                                       Sonny and Cher  1967

Regards,
Sun



Massive naval buildup in Persian Gulf as Israel moves closer to war

Western powers and several of their Middle East allies have deployed an enormous naval fleet to the Persian Gulf just days after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu again suggested that his country may soon launch a preemptive strike against Iran's nuclear facilities.

The fleet includes ships from 25 nations, include three full US carrier groups, each one with a compliment of more aircraft than the entire Iranian air force. Military officials cited by London's Daily Telegraph said the buildup is part of a new annual exercise, but their was no secrecy about the fact that the "enemy" in the exercise is Iran.

There is great fear among Western powers that if Israel strikes Iran's defiant nuclear program, the Islamic Republic will retaliate by trying to close the Straits of Hormuz, a narrow waterway in the Persian Gulf that that sees the daily transit of 18 million barrels of oil, or roughly 35 percent of the world's traded oil. For that oil tap to be shut off would have potentially catastrophic consequences for the economies of the US, Britain, the Euro Zone and Japan, among others......

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23393/Default.aspx

[zack1234]

Does Iran have any Allies

[RTHolmes]

A limited strike targetting nuke facilities would have my full backing, since we have the hardware locally anyway. a rogue state with WMDs (and we are 100% sure about them this time ...), I'd start by razing Negev (not worth much tactically but it sends a message), then work out to all the storage and secondary production/maintenance sites. just the nukes, leave the rest.