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Offline Scherf

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Question of Ethics and board Etiquette - German Newsreels
« on: September 13, 2012, 07:06:37 PM »
For whatever reason, I sometimes watch old "Deutsche Wochenschau" WWII German newsreel clips on youtube.

They often feature bits of tech which might be of interest to AH players - have just come across one with Marseille clambering out of his 109 in the desert, for example.

That same newsreel however shows allied casualties, PoWs (I believe photographing prisoners violated the Geneva convention), and a special har-de-har about captured black and Indian troops.

Not to mention some of the comments - do any of those people live near me?

I'm reluctant just to post the link here for fear of putting HTC in strife.

Any views / advice?
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Offline MiloMorai

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Re: Question of Ethics and board Etiquette - German Newsreels
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2012, 09:12:22 PM »
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That same newsreel however shows allied casualties, PoWs (I believe photographing prisoners violated the Geneva convention), and a special har-de-har about captured black and Indian troops.

Is that any different from showing Axis soldiers in Allied news reals?
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Re: Question of Ethics and board Etiquette - German Newsreels
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2012, 09:13:29 PM »
If you post it in historical context, I don't see any problem with it. Everyone knows the Nazi would demonize and mark certain types of people inhuman, I don't think they would hold it against you.

If it is a film about Mohammad on the other hand, some people can't take free speech in any form; historical or otherwise.
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Re: Question of Ethics and board Etiquette - German Newsreels
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2012, 09:54:06 PM »
Quote from: Scherf on September 13, 2012, 07:06:37 PM
Any views / advice?


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Offline GScholz

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Re: Question of Ethics and board Etiquette - German Newsreels
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2012, 04:11:22 AM »
The third Geneva Convention does not specifically prohibit photographing prisoners of war, only that they "must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity." So as long as the film does not humiliate the prisoners, then it would not be a violation.
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Re: Question of Ethics and board Etiquette - German Newsreels
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2012, 06:58:38 AM »
OK, it's here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qsvoRj1GFQ

There's even a close up of the tail of Marseille's aircraft, Wrk Nr's there, but a little blurry. The commentary is that Marseille at the time of filming had 87 victories.

Jolly panzer songs to sing along to, as well.
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... missions were to be met by the commitment of alerted swarms of fighters, composed of Me 109's and Fw 190's, that were strategically based to protect industrial installations. The inferior capabilities of these fighters against the Mosquitoes made this a hopeless and uneconomical effort. 1.JD KTB

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Re: Question of Ethics and board Etiquette - German Newsreels
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2012, 07:12:01 AM »
Quote from: Scherf on September 14, 2012, 06:58:38 AM
OK, it's here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qsvoRj1GFQ

There's even a close up of the tail of Marseille's aircraft, Wrk Nr's there, but a little blurry. The commentary is that Marseille at the time of filming had 87 victories.

Jolly panzer songs to sing along to, as well.


Good find.

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