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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2012, 06:04:56 PM »
How do you mean 4+4 boms? Did they double stack bombs on the pylons, like we do with our modern jets?
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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2012, 06:08:21 PM »
Didn't the G6 have a variety of engines, since its lifespan was almost 2 years ?


Guess we got the 1rst ever made.

 
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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2012, 06:51:00 PM »
How do you mean 4+4 boms? Did they double stack bombs on the pylons, like we do with our modern jets?

When the 190F-8 carried 8/50kg bombs, it carried 2 on each wing and 4 center line, each on their own shackle. Similar to how the B5N carries the 3/250kg bombs, but only line abreast in a 2x2 manner.  There are photos of this on the interwebs somewhere, I just need to find them.  If HTC allowed the Typhoon with the 4 rockets + DT based on a photo I would hope they would allow the same courtesy for the 190F-8 and the 8/50kg bombs configuration.   :aok 
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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2012, 07:01:12 PM »
I found a photo its called the ER-4 rack - only thing is I cannot find a 190 carrying all 8 bombs, not sure why it wouldn't or couldn't but no photos. I either find them with 4x bombs on the wing and a DT or 4 bombs center and nothing on the wings. Then again I have very few 190F photos.



Edited I just found this - for close air support it did allow carrying all 8 bombs. 4th Armament on the list shows 4x 50kg on the wings, 4x 50kg in the middle.


i made a mistake thinking it was 12 bombs, its in fact 8 bombs total.
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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2012, 07:19:31 PM »
Yeah, not a whole lot of photo documentation for the Axis. Where they have it, its usually pretty prolific, and where we still need it, its rarer than the Pinta Island Tortoise.
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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2012, 09:11:09 AM »
Was there ever a variant of a 109 that carried 4 x 12mm?
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2012, 09:27:07 AM »
Was there ever a variant of a 109 that carried 4 x 12mm?

Not 12mm but I do know different versions that carried machine guns.
Bf 109 C-4 carried 4x MG 17s
BF 109  E-1 carried 4x MG 17s and 250kg bomb
E-3 was first to carry 2 MG 17s and MG/FF

I don't see any projects that carried 12mm other then 109F2 series which had the 12mm nose cannon. Also apart of its different equipments it could carry, doesn't list 4x 12mms of gun packages.
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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2012, 09:28:42 AM »
Not 12mm but I do know different versions that carried machine guns.
Bf 109 C-4 carried 4x MG 17s
BF 109  E-1 carried 4x MG 17s and 250kg bomb
E-3 was first to carry 2 MG 17s and MG/FF

I don't see any projects that carried 12mm other then 109F2 series which had the 12mm nose cannon. Also apart of its different equipments it could carry, doesn't list 4x 12mms of gun packages.


The "12mm nose cannon" was the initial version of the MG-151 15mm cannon.


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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2012, 09:29:52 AM »
The "12mm nose cannon" was the initial version of the MG-151 15mm cannon.


Ah yeah sorry, 15mm not 12 - it only was fitting on the 109F2, as for that I dont see any reference to 12mm or 15mm weapons on the 109s.
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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2012, 01:22:23 PM »
I found a photo its called the ER-4 rack - only thing is I cannot find a 190 carrying all 8 bombs, not sure why it wouldn't or couldn't but no photos. I either find them with 4x bombs on the wing and a DT or 4 bombs center and nothing on the wings. Then again I have very few 190F photos.

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Edited I just found this - for close air support it did allow carrying all 8 bombs. 4th Armament on the list shows 4x 50kg on the wings, 4x 50kg in the middle.
(Image removed from quote.)

i made a mistake thinking it was 12 bombs, its in fact 8 bombs total.

YES!!!!  THERE IT IS!!!   :salute  Butcher

I really hope HTC allows for this.  Like I've said before, this would add in something we currently do not have: a fighter with 8 bomb capacity.   :aok    Oh, and it would be historically accurate too!!!   ;)
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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #25 on: September 14, 2012, 01:41:04 PM »
YES!!!!  THERE IT IS!!!   :salute  Butcher

I really hope HTC allows for this.  Like I've said before, this would add in something we currently do not have: a fighter with 8 bomb capacity.   :aok    Oh, and it would be historically accurate too!!!   ;)

Certainly more fun then trying to fly a TBF with 10x 100lb bombs since it flies like a School Bus :)
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Re: weaponry update
« Reply #26 on: September 14, 2012, 06:10:12 PM »
Of course, it looks like that mount would cause a lot of drag unless it dropped away after use. That might make our 190 into just a slightly faster bus.
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