i dunno what kind of junk tires you're sellin' me.....

[eagl]

what no one's noticed as yet though, is the missing valve stem. or the scrapew marks on the rim next to it.......

Those were the first things I noticed.  I was wondering if there was something else even worse, from the way you carried on about it.

 
 

[CAP1]

Those were the first things I noticed.  I was wondering if there was something else even worse, from the way you carried on about it.

 
 

 naH...there's other reasons why the guy's like he is. it bothers me, 'cause despite his shortcomings, i like the guy. i kind of vented here.......

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

The guy may well have been padding his story.

On the other hand I have a bit of a bias about tire companies myself. I had a bad tire on my trailer (RV). I'm obsessive about tire pressure. It gets checked every day before I take the rig on the road, even if it's just across the campground. I keep it at max pressure because it's a heavy rig but well under the max load of the tires. I also check the tires for excess heat at every stop on the highway, about every 100 to 150 miles of 60 to 63 MPH speed.

We stopped at a park on a rainy day last August. We smelled burning rubber but had no idea from where. The next morning I check tires and find one of the tires with less than 15k miles on it is no longer flat across the tread but it is bulged in the center all the way around. The edge of the tread is wrinkled where it meets the sidewall and there is a spot where they was melted rubber poking out. This is a rear tire. No curbs, major potholes or road problems yet I have a tread separating. It still has 125 PSI the max recommended pressure. I take it to the tire shop after swapping it out and the guy doesn't even let me take it off the truck. He just says that I ran it under inflated and it's not a warranty issue. If I don't like his opinion I can take it up with Goodyear, then he walks away.

These are not cheap tires, about $430 a pop now. They are commercial grade 17.5" H rated trailer tires. Good year had a major problem with their earlier trailer tires a G rated 16" tires a few years back. It seems like these are doing the same thing.

Trailer tires -------------> Kumho. We tow thousands of miles a year, we stopped using Goodyear trailer tires about 6 years ago. We bought a trailer last year that had new Goodyear tires on it. About an hour south of Atlanta, about 11 PM, on the first long trip, we lost two of them. On the left side, where the shoulder is just about wide enough for the trailer. I put a spare on, we limped to the next exit. The next day, we had a new set of Kumho tires before we left the truck service shop. As always, the Kumho tires have been flawless. Not counting what it cost to replace them, those Goodyears cost us $2K in lost time. Never again. If we buy a new trailer, they'll put Kumho tires on it there, or it goes to the tire shop for a new set before it even goes to the shop to get loaded.

[CAP1]

Trailer tires -------------> Kumho. We tow thousands of miles a year, we stopped using Goodyear trailer tires about 6 years ago. We bought a trailer last year that had new Goodyear tires on it. About an hour south of Atlanta, about 11 PM, on the first long trip, we lost two of them. On the left side, where the shoulder is just about wide enough for the trailer. I put a spare on, we limped to the next exit. The next day, we had a new set of Kumho tires before we left the truck service shop. As always, the Kumho tires have been flawless. Not counting what it cost to replace them, those Goodyears cost us $2K in lost time. Never again. If we buy a new trailer, they'll put Kumho tires on it there, or it goes to the tire shop for a new set before it even goes to the shop to get loaded.

khumo's are excellent tires. i sell a lot of thm

[flight17]

those were the first words out of a customers mouth this morning as he pulls up in his 86 dodge ramcharger. i go out to look at it. as we're walking out to the truck, he goes "i didn't hit anything this time. no curbs, no holes, nuthin'. it just went flat." we get to the truck, and he opens the rear hatch(and holds it, 'cause he won't replace the struts to hold it). i pull the tire out, and see this.....

tire by 1LtCap, on Flickr

 i tell him....you whacked a curb dude, pointing at the evidence. he denies it of course............ i WISH i had my voice recorder running to record the entire conversation......

What a handsomehunks... He even broke off the stem.

[gyrene81]

The guy may well have been padding his story.

On the other hand I have a bit of a bias about tire companies myself. I had a bad tire on my trailer (RV). I'm obsessive about tire pressure. It gets checked every day before I take the rig on the road, even if it's just across the campground. I keep it at max pressure because it's a heavy rig but well under the max load of the tires. I also check the tires for excess heat at every stop on the highway, about every 100 to 150 miles of 60 to 63 MPH speed.

We stopped at a park on a rainy day last August. We smelled burning rubber but had no idea from where. The next morning I check tires and find one of the tires with less than 15k miles on it is no longer flat across the tread but it is bulged in the center all the way around. The edge of the tread is wrinkled where it meets the sidewall and there is a spot where they was melted rubber poking out. This is a rear tire. No curbs, major potholes or road problems yet I have a tread separating. It still has 125 PSI the max recommended pressure. I take it to the tire shop after swapping it out and the guy doesn't even let me take it off the truck. He just says that I ran it under inflated and it's not a warranty issue. If I don't like his opinion I can take it up with Goodyear, then he walks away.

These are not cheap tires, about $430 a pop now. They are commercial grade 17.5" H rated trailer tires. Good year had a major problem with their earlier trailer tires a G rated 16" tires a few years back. It seems like these are doing the same thing.

the guy at the tire shop was a shyster, i hope that's not someone you do business with. tires don't generally experience total belt separation if they are underinflated. sidewall blowout yes, belt separation no, especially with a load on them.

[Hawker25]

Interesting to see so many others have problems with goodyear.  I bought the last set of goodyear tires ill ever buy in 2008.  The were supposed to be the best available and not cheap either.  The goodyear wrangler silent armor line.  Junk i tell you.  Wore like crap and had terrible traction.  They were supposed to be 50,000 mile tires and i got rid of them at 20 to 25 cause i hated them so much.  Got a set of Cooper MS snow tires for winter and a set of hankook at's for summer and couldn't be happier.

[Shuffler]

hhheeeeyyyy!!!!!!!!  THAT sir is a most excellent idea!!! it wouldn't be very hard to rig up an electro magnet running off of your car...cruise slow along the shoulders of the road...........hhhhmmmmmmmm

 what no one's noticed as yet though, is the missing valve stem. or the scrapew marks on the rim next to it.......

I noted it right off and also the crack


I run Toyo Open Country MT on my truck.



37.5 x 22 close to $700 ea but they are a great tire.

[Slate]

Just prior to the tire going flat, was heard from inside the vehicle, "hold my beer and watch this".

  Some one I know said something like that. He thought it was cool to take out some construction cones on the highway. Well those cones are perfect Valve stem extractors. He learned his lesson as he changed his tire in the constuction zone. 

[Shuffler]

  Some one I know said something like that. He thought it was cool to take out some construction cones on the highway. Well those cones are perfect Valve stem extractors. He learned his lesson as he changed his tire in the constuction zone. 

Not to mention..............when he takes out those cones and his relatives later come through and crash because he removed the cones.

[smoe]

The guy may well have been padding his story.

On the other hand I have a bit of a bias about tire companies myself. I had a bad tire on my trailer (RV). I'm obsessive about tire pressure. It gets checked every day before I take the rig on the road, even if it's just across the campground. I keep it at max pressure because it's a heavy rig but well under the max load of the tires. I also check the tires for excess heat at every stop on the highway, about every 100 to 150 miles of 60 to 63 MPH speed.

We stopped at a park on a rainy day last August. We smelled burning rubber but had no idea from where. The next morning I check tires and find one of the tires with less than 15k miles on it is no longer flat across the tread but it is bulged in the center all the way around. The edge of the tread is wrinkled where it meets the sidewall and there is a spot where they was melted rubber poking out. This is a rear tire. No curbs, major potholes or road problems yet I have a tread separating. It still has 125 PSI the max recommended pressure. I take it to the tire shop after swapping it out and the guy doesn't even let me take it off the truck. He just says that I ran it under inflated and it's not a warranty issue. If I don't like his opinion I can take it up with Goodyear, then he walks away.

These are not cheap tires, about $430 a pop now. They are commercial grade 17.5" H rated trailer tires. Good year had a major problem with their earlier trailer tires a G rated 16" tires a few years back. It seems like these are doing the same thing.

Check with the factory, might not be a bad idea to call up Goodyear headquarters in Akron, OH. I know Goodyear has quality inspection machines for truck tires that check balance/even tread, video tape, and record data. The machine was purchased for the sole purpose of making sure an 18-wheeler gets 18 good tires.

[Maverick]

Check with the factory, might not be a bad idea to call up Goodyear headquarters in Akron, OH. I know Goodyear has quality inspection machines for truck tires that check balance/even tread, video tape, and record data. The machine was purchased for the sole purpose of making sure an 18-wheeler gets 18 good tires.

I did call the main HQ number and got a ref number for a return. I also went and looked up a shop that dealt in commercial tires only rather than small vehicle tires. Took me most of an afternoon to find them here in South Central Louisiana. The tire, by now, should be at the factory for analysis. I still had to go out of pocket for a replacement and balancing in the mean time.

I'm less than happy with goodyear but the number of tire manufacturers dealing in the 17.5" H rated category is very small. AFAIK it's goodyear or michelin. Michelin is even more expensive, less responsive  to damage claims from failure of the tire from what I have found through my RV sources and they have a max speed limitation of 62 MPH.

[CAP1]

MY BIGGEST beef with goodyear has always been traction. as in they suck. especially in the wet weather. back in the late 90's, i had put a set of eagle gt+4's on my mustang. THOSE were good tires. they hooked good in all conditions, even when i drove it in the snow.

[Babalonian]

those were the first words out of a customers mouth this morning as he pulls up in his 86 dodge ramcharger. i go out to look at it. as we're walking out to the truck, he goes "i didn't hit anything this time. no curbs, no holes, nuthin'. it just went flat." we get to the truck, and he opens the rear hatch(and holds it, 'cause he won't replace the struts to hold it). i pull the tire out, and see this.....

tire by 1LtCap, on Flickr

 i tell him....you whacked a curb dude, pointing at the evidence. he denies it of course............ i WISH i had my voice recorder running to record the entire conversation......

Let me guess, left side driving forward or right driving backwards, it looks like from the scaring? 

[Babalonian]

And this is why I wouldn't do what you do Cap. Don't get me wrong...I love to twist wrenches, do it for a living as a matter of fact, but having to deal with the stupid public would drive me nuts.


And Maverick, after a couple of lines into your post I was wondering whether those were Goodyears or not.  I had similar problems with that brand myself in the past. Over priced junk if ya ask me. I never buy Goodyear again. And haven't for 10 or 15 years now.

I'll verify with my family, but we haven't been buying Michellin for a few years now because they had a major tread seperation problem that was wide reported in a batch of tires, and they didn't do squat to replace or reimburse us after we bought some of this batch and had tread seperating on one of them after about only 3k miles.