i dunno what kind of junk tires you're sellin' me.....

[Nathan60]

Woo! I got some new rubber watch me be billy BA.....aww dang man I just messed up some brand new tires, its cool tho I'll say they sold me um this way.  That or drunk and hit the curb.

[Babalonian]

Trailer tires -------------> Kumho. We tow thousands of miles a year, we stopped using Goodyear trailer tires about 6 years ago. We bought a trailer last year that had new Goodyear tires on it. About an hour south of Atlanta, about 11 PM, on the first long trip, we lost two of them. On the left side, where the shoulder is just about wide enough for the trailer. I put a spare on, we limped to the next exit. The next day, we had a new set of Kumho tires before we left the truck service shop. As always, the Kumho tires have been flawless. Not counting what it cost to replace them, those Goodyears cost us $2K in lost time. Never again. If we buy a new trailer, they'll put Kumho tires on it there, or it goes to the tire shop for a new set before it even goes to the shop to get loaded.

Was there any evidence it was the tires and not debri in that case?  Maybe one went first and then the other didn't like the extra load?   Two tires, on the same side... I'm not a Goodyear fan but that sounds aweful unlucky.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Was there any evidence it was the tires and not debri in that case?  Maybe one went first and then the other didn't like the extra load?   Two tires, on the same side... I'm not a Goodyear fan but that sounds aweful unlucky.

It was not debris. It would have hit two tires on the truck and two tires on the trailer to get to the last tire, which blew. The next tire blew before we could stop. It was March, at night, and there was a light rain. So heat was not a problem. The tires had plenty of safety margin in load rating.

This is a common problem with Goodyear trailer tires. If this had been the first failure, I'd have given them the benefit of doubt. It was not. We've had several race car trailers, the new trailers came with Goodyear tires. We've had failures on every trailer. We leave plenty of safety margin, the tires do not even get close to their limit. We're careful about heat and inflation as well. We've even had them fail on the horse trailer.

It's not bad luck, it's bad tires. We're not the only guys having the problem. Except we don't have a problem when we put Kumho tires on the trailers.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I once had an embarrassing moment with tires. When I was 19 or so I bought my first ever set of new (refurbished) tires for my car. As luck would have it the very first day I backed into a nail that punctured the new tire. 

Nevermind, I had it fixed with a tubeless patch and went on driving. The next summer I started to hear an annoying 'tap tap tap tap' sound from the rear while driving - as if a stone would have got lodged into the threads. I couldn't find anything there so I figured the tire must be faulty and took it for an inspection.

The tire professional said it sounded like the core was separated from the thread and he's going to replace it free of charge. He then opens the tire and finds the patch inside. I had completely forgotten already about the puncture and the patch so I kept insisting it must have been there already when the tire was new and refused to pay for the fix. Later on I remembered the incident and I felt like a total tard 

But IMO the tire should not break like that even if there is a nail puncturing it.

[gyrene81]

But IMO the tire should not break like that even if there is a nail puncturing it.

  wait, so the structure of the steel belts which have been damaged by an object should ignore the laws of physics because you think so? go buy polyester bias ply tires, you will never have to worry about belt separation...

[MrRiplEy[H]]

  wait, so the structure of the steel belts which have been damaged by an object should ignore the laws of physics because you think so? go buy polyester bias ply tires, you will never have to worry about belt separation...

Yes, the core of the tire should not separate from the surface due to a small puncture.

[CAP1]

I had completely forgotten already about the puncture and the patch so I kept insisting it must have been there already when the tire was new and refused to pay for the fix. Later on I remembered the incident and I felt like a total tard 

But IMO the tire should not break like that even if there is a nail puncturing it.

 if the nail was in the middle'ish area of the tread, it shouldn't have caused any problems. when one uses patches that go in the inside of the tire, they need to prep the surface. i've seen guys get overzealous doing this, and create problems.

 what actually more than likely caused your tire to seperate in this instance, was that you caught a pothole, or caught a seam in the road, causing the belt to shift slightly. then over time, it moves a little more till you've got a flatspot, or a bulge. i've rarely seen a defective tire take a full year to show a problem.

 on the bolded part........that kind of stuff pisses me off BAD. suffice it to say, your car would not have left my shop till you paid me for it.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

if the nail was in the middle'ish area of the tread, it shouldn't have caused any problems. when one uses patches that go in the inside of the tire, they need to prep the surface. i've seen guys get overzealous doing this, and create problems.

 what actually more than likely caused your tire to seperate in this instance, was that you caught a pothole, or caught a seam in the road, causing the belt to shift slightly. then over time, it moves a little more till you've got a flatspot, or a bulge. i've rarely seen a defective tire take a full year to show a problem.

 on the bolded part........that kind of stuff pisses me off BAD. suffice it to say, your car would not have left my shop till you paid me for it.

Well he did already promise to do it free of charge and I was a high school kid, still making car payments from my night job. I really didn't want to buy a new tire

[CAP1]

Well he did already promise to do it free of charge and I was a high school kid, still making car payments from my night job. I really didn't want to buy a new tire

 but you flat out lied to the guy.

 i have a customer just dropped off his buick, for me to move the fuel gauge needle back to the right side of the pin. it's a 97. that era gm products used to have a tendency to have the gas gauge "jump" when you jump started the car. it would go beyond one of the travel limit pins, and then it's stuck. only way to make it right, is remove the cluster, and lift it over.
 he tried insisting it happened when i changed the battery the other day. after he had it jumpstarted to bring it here. since i know that happens, i looked inside the car before i touched it. i saw the gauge there, noted it on the invoice. when he came to pick up the car, and i told him it was done, he went right to the car, and looked(as if he knew what had happened), then comes back in to me, trying to tell me i messed up his gas gauge. i told him it was like that(which it was), and he asked me how it got that way. i told him it happens when they're jumpstarted.
 he tried to keep arguing with me(he thinks that because he's a retired electrical engineer, that he can out-smart me with electrical stuff on his car....this isn't the first bad dealing with this customer). it took me a few minutes to get the point across to him that i knew EXACTLY how it happened.
 then he admitted that he tried jumping it 2x himself, which wouldn't get more than a rapid clicking from the car, so he called AAA....they jumped it for him. and yes, he IS paying me for removing the cluster to set it right.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

but you flat out lied to the guy.

Bug off and learn to read. At the time of the incident I had completely forgotten about the puncture.

[Shuffler]

Bug off and learn to read. At the time of the incident I had completely forgotten about the puncture.

... and then when pointed out you lied.

[Nathan60]

... and then when pointed out you lied.

hes saying he was a youngin and probably a doper so he forgot about the punture in total.

[CAP1]

hes saying he was a youngin and probably a doper so he forgot about the punture in total.

 ya know what? i probably over reacted. we've all messed up in some way  when we were young.

[Volron]

those were the first words out of a customers mouth this morning as he pulls up in his 86 dodge ramcharger. i go out to look at it. as we're walking out to the truck, he goes "i didn't hit anything this time. no curbs, no holes, nuthin'. it just went flat." we get to the truck, and he opens the rear hatch(and holds it, 'cause he won't replace the struts to hold it). i pull the tire out, and see this.....

tire by 1LtCap, on Flickr

 i tell him....you whacked a curb dude, pointing at the evidence. he denies it of course............ i WISH i had my voice recorder running to record the entire conversation......

Okay.  You are wrong Cap.  He didn't "whack" a curb.  He ****** the  **** out of it...

[minke]

20+ years in retail and if there is one thing i've learnt.

Buyers are liars