China's First Carrier Entered Service This Week

[zack1234]

did you watch the expose on poundland Zack?   

they are worse than the supermarkets!! 

I like screwdrivers made out of swiss cheese and don't care about people who work in pound land

I am turning into greedy capitalist and only thinking of myself

[ToeTag]

I like screwdrivers made out of swiss cheese and don't care about people who work in pound land

I am turning into greedy capitalist and only thinking of myself

I like screwdrivers made with vodka and OJ.

[zack1234]

 

[SEraider]

Build their economy with American tax payers money and we act surprised that they build a navy? 

[Babalonian]

No but there is a good chance it is painted with lead based paint.

You sir win a cookie. 

[Xjazz]

Long time ago I hear,  the F18's that we bought from the US, had some odd limitations in technical documentations.
Some circuit board functionality, IC IO's and the IC's internal silicon chip areas descriptions were completely missing.


Now days plenty of the IC's are made in China, the ASIC's included so, who knows, what kind undocumented characters THOSE chip may have..

Lets combine above with the Chines typical very long term strategic planning...

No, my tinfoilhat is not too tight

[Spikes]

there not

That doesn't make any sense.

[zack1234]

Exactly they won't start a war because they make everything

Wars are only for gain and why start a argument with your markets when you can just under cut them

That's what The Japanese and Chinese arguing nonsense for the sheep is about, the Japanese cannot compete with the China, and since end of the Cold War Japan is now having to stand on its own with out the Trillions of dollars you gave it

Japan is the most inefficient country in the world, it was all based on massive deficits which they will pay for the next 250 years, they don't make anyone unemployed and they have 10 people to do a one man job

The end of the world  

[Xjazz]

Exactly they won't start a war because they make everything

Wars are only for gain and why start a argument with your markets when you can just under cut them

That's what The Japanese and Chinese arguing nonsense for the sheep is about, the Japanese cannot compete with the China, and since end of the Cold War Japan is now having to stand on its own with out the Trillions of dollars you gave it

Japan is the most inefficient country in the world, it was all based on massive deficits which they will pay for the next 250 years, they don't make anyone unemployed and they have 10 people to do a one man job

The end of the world  

Concerning the Japan vs China

Perhaps the China is just making their internal politic adjustments with this drama.

It could be they want to point their people attention towards to the greater  'common enemy', while they are doing some internal adjustments.
No one will pay attention too much to it... Or else.

Once things are done, the drama will cool down and some new deals are actually made for 'common good'.

WMD? Any one?

[skorpx1]

Pfft. An old carrier that was given a little bit of love to make it operable to standards that were set 2 decades ago, yep. We definitely need to be scared. They couldn't even design their own for gods sake. If they really wanted to be considered dangerous they should at least have the planes to put on it, and then have them able to take off from it.


Its like buying an old M-16, giving it a few mods and then calling it an M4. Its just stupid. 

[Xjazz]

 

Irony

 I meet some very nice US people, but I always kept away a politics for good reason.

To me is always sounded like they are way too simple to go to the reasoning state. No, what if's or else'sEsc

Way too painful

[Stalwart]

Its like buying an old M-16, giving it a few mods and then calling it an M4. Its just stupid. 

But, if you get shot with it, it doesn't really matter. Does it?
Reminds me of a scene from Pulp Fiction where the serious guy with the little handgun blows away to jokers with the hand cannons.

My 2 cents on the subject:
The comparison of China to US is irrelevant.  My guess what matters is China's net advancement relative to previous capabilities.  And just as important, is the perceived advancement of China to China's neighbors in the region.  What's important to me is the trend.

[Seanaldinho]

Pfft. An old carrier that was given a little bit of love to make it operable to standards that were set 2 decades ago, yep. We definitely need to be scared. They couldn't even design their own for gods sake. If they really wanted to be considered dangerous they should at least have the planes to put on it, and then have them able to take off from it.


Its like buying an old M-16, giving it a few mods and then calling it an M4. Its just stupid. 

Ok your the "hot fighter jock" sent to blow it up, your not nervous of getting blown out of the sky?

Any threat no matter how big or small is still a threat.

[skorpx1]

Ok your the "hot fighter jock" sent to blow it up, your not nervous of getting blown out of the sky?

Any threat no matter how big or small is still a threat.

If it were out at sea and had an escort of a few other ships, I'd be less worried. No planes are able to take off of it so half of the fear factor is gone. Now, about its self-defense systems and other ships? Well then that's a bit of a problem.

[Seanaldinho]

If it were out at sea and had an escort of a few other ships, I'd be less worried. No planes are able to take off of it so half of the fear factor is gone. Now, about its self-defense systems and other ships? Well then that's a bit of a problem.

Exactly so dont blow it off because its been "given a little bit of love".