Best Bomber Killer

[W7LPNRICK]

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bevor im going to use the 110 with its rockets i will use the 410 with its rockets. the aiming of the 410 rockets is much better as at the 110. try it.
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I hate flying that thing. I wish it was a better bird, but it isn't. Too heavy, climbs too slow with enough fuel to get up with high bombers & is a pig at high alt.    IMO

[W7LPNRICK]

Turbocharger, actually. And it starts dying off about 29-30k. By the time you're 30-33k you're losing power. Still, the jugs are some of the better-handling planes at that alt.

As for folks saying the 110G stock has less firepower than a 190A8, this is just wrong. All is more than made up for by ungodly amounts of 30mm. Even if it ONLY had the 30mm, nothing else, it would still have several times the firepower of the A8 with 30mms. It will be able to sustain fire longer, kill more, do more damage with any snapshot. Think of it as a slower 262 or 163. The K4 has the same gun, the A8 has the same gun, but their firing time is very short at 65 and 55 rds per gun. Ta152 is better at 90 rpg. The 110 takes the cake amongs all props for mk108 ammo loadout.

The problem is the performance. It's often too slow and has too low a ceiling to get up to the stubborn bombers. If you get anything close to your alt or even below, it is the best. You also can limp home on 1 engine if severely wounded.

The 410 might edge that out if it could mount the historically accurate MG151 gunpod externally. If it had 8x 20mms, it would be a contender. With the BK5 it definitely outshoots the 30mm, but aiming and position are difficult and it's only slightly better than the WGRs at the sacrifice of better gun packs. You run out with the BK5 and you're stuck with 2x20mm. Boucou ammo for them, but only 2 of them. Not so good for fleeting snapshots.

Just some additional food for though.

I agree with all of this, but before I quit flying the 410 I made a kill on bombers with that big gun...Talk about COOL! one round, Kablewie! it really jazzed me. my subsequent attempts were flawed, so I assumed the first try was beginners luck.  

[Tank-Ace]

It was never factory produced. Only field conversion kit. Factory armament on the G-2 was always 2x MG151 and 4x MG17, and it was the preferred armament for Jabo since it was more useful for strafing. There was also a 4x MG151 kit...

Ummm.... how is that relevent? We don't have the option in Aces High, and stock AH armament is 2 20mms and 2 30mm's.


Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but if we're only supposed to stick to planes we have in the game, wouldn't it make sense to only talk about the planes we have within the context of what amaments we have available for use in Aces High?

Cause if you wanna go outside of Aces High, I'm fairly certian FlaK was the best bomber killer.

[GScholz]

You'd be wrong.

The 110 will be updated eventually and I guess/hope it will get a lot more loadout options.

Btw. I was responding to Krusty, who wasn't limiting his comment to the in-game 110.

[Krusty]

Quite right. I didn't want to reply and get off on a tangent. Yes, the 7mm loadout was used, but only insomuch as it's all they had. They were wholly ineffective (except in rare cases where they're shooting unprotected people on the ground, strafing troops, etc). They were more often than not REMOVED from the airframe, flying with only the 2x20mm. That's why they had the gunpods, because it couldn't put out enough firepower. As soon as the Mk108s were ready, rutsatz or not, it was pretty much the standard for any 110G taking off for air to air action.

[GScholz]

I think little more than 400 MK 108 field conversion kits were made. As a daylight bomber destroyer the 110 had a short career, and night-fighter units preferred the MG151 kit since the 151 could be fitted with flash hiders.

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For most average cartoon pilot's I think The FW190A8 is the best plane ,since its survivability is much higher than 110s and 410s, and can take some punishment without immediately have to break off attacks when hit, you can also out dive/roll many escorts.

I prefer the 4*20mm  2*13mm because I for the most part use high 1-3 o'clock attacks, and shoot at distance with high closure rate, minimizing chance of collisions (unless remaining drones warp when one is down).

I aim at cockpit, but since I set convergence to 450 , shooting at wing-tips also do he trick.

How the 410 still is so fragile is beyond me though.

[StrayDog]

I am still going through the films but the plan is to post a video of 100 kills against bombers at high alt. 

Please 

[Chalenge]

It took 21 days just to separate out the kill segments. 

[Butcher]

I never really liked hunting buffs, especially in a Ta-152, something just feels off on that plane, to me it just seems so unstable, before I used to enjoy flying at 25+ in a P38J, quite a nice bird up there doing 400mph.

[BaldEagl]

The BF-110 is an excellent buff killer.  4x20cal, 2x30cal plus it takes punishment.  I once attacked B-17's on a dead six run at 36K taking over 100 hits.  3 B-17's died.  I landed.  You have to be in position as the 110's slow but if you are it's a killer.  For that reason the 190A-8's a better choice but the 110 can't be ignored.

I agree the Ta-152's not great.  It's the glass radiator.

[W7LPNRICK]

The BF-110 is an excellent buff killer.  4x20MM, 2x30MM plus it takes punishment.  I once attacked B-17's on a dead six run at 36K taking over 100 hits.  3 B-17's died.  I landed.  You have to be in position as the 110's slow but if you are it's a killer.  For that reason the 190A-8's a better choice but the 110 can't be ignored.

I agree the Ta-152's not great.  It's the glass radiator.

20cal would be smaller than a .22 rimfire, 30cal would be '06/30-30 size we know what you meant...110 slows way down up high & is very poor in maneuverability...feels very unstable IMO 

[BaldEagl]

20cal would be smaller than a .22 rimfire, 30cal would be '06/30-30 size we know what you meant...110 slows way down up high & is very poor in maneuverability...feels very unstable IMO 

Yeah, it was late and I was tired and had had a few.

[MK-84]

109G14 with the gondolas and the 30mm set at 450 is an excellent choice. It has the power to quickly gain altitude, and has decent top speed.  It provides a fairly small target as well, and is somewhat managable against escort fighters.  With the climbrate it can get back into position for another attack reasonably quickly, something that most other fighters lack. What it doesnt do well is extreme speeds, and very very high altitudes, but very few raids are conducted so high up that it's truly out of its element.

[Tank-Ace]

I don't know. The G-14 isn't great up high. It peaks out for speed at only a bit over 400mph at only 17,000ft or so.

Personally, I don't feel like the 20mm's are enough of a boost in firepower to justify the loss in performance vs the K4.

I mean for absolute top speed, the K4 on military power is faster than the G-14 is on WEP. The G-14's peak preformance on WEP is only slightly superior to that of the K4 on military power at the same altitude.


for climb rate, the K14 is superior exept for a small altitude band between about 4k and 7-8k, after which the G-14 steadily loses ground. However the G-14 remains close to the K4 upto about 20,00ft At 25,000ft.