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Offline Slade

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Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« on: October 08, 2012, 09:14:01 AM »
I spent some time in the evil Spit16 (I know it is not evil = pilots are evil etc.).  That plane is crazy...and fun.  Plane after plane I went after were like fish out of water just flopping around waiting to die.  Zero chance to live.  Almost no one I encountered could escape or evade me.  My maneuvers were nuts (felt like Zero-G at moments).  I was able to make many mistakes - recover - and yet still be the aggressor!  Toughest thing I found in the Spit16 was learning to avoid blacking out from my insane maneuvers.

I think thanks to the Spit16 new pilots can more quickly have a chance to compete.

It was scary and fun.  I hate it and love it at the same time.
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2012, 10:31:12 AM »
I dont up the easy16 unless im expecting a 4+ vs me.
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2012, 10:59:25 AM »
Most people forget it can carry 1000 lbs of ord, too.  It is a monster, no doubt.  There isn't much it cant do.  About it's only weakness is not being able to stay with the gun-n-run US fighters in a 500mph TAS dive.     
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2012, 11:13:35 AM »
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About it's only weakness is not being able to stay with the gun-n-run US fighters in a 500mph TAS dive.

I have not duplicated it yet but have been in 500 mph dives and Spit16s have been right there with me.
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2012, 11:28:25 AM »
I have not duplicated it yet but have been in 500 mph dives and Spit16s have been right there with me.

True... they can stay with you for most of the way.  The margin is close, but in the end the P51 and P47 will be able to hang on to the top speed edge and inch away.  If the alt started at 5000 ft then no, the Spit16 can and will keep up and then start splitting hairs. 

If there is a plane in AH that needs a "performance check", it is the Spitfire Mk 16.  It is one amazing plane.  Truly amazing.   
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2012, 12:01:33 PM »
I dont up the easy16 unless im expecting a 4+ vs me.
I can't even do that without feeling dirty for a week.

The old 16 never ceases to amaze me. Nearly unropeable. Only aircraft that is more insane in performance is the Brewster (thank goodness it's slow). Both planes seem to accelerate from a stop instantly and hold E for weeks...almost as if they have no weight or drag.
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2012, 12:08:52 PM »
Won't this bring up the old argument of, Perk the 16 and Unperk the 14?; or, Perk the 16?


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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2012, 12:44:59 PM »
Definitely my favorite plane to defend a field with.  Enough ord to kill 2 stationary tanks and 1 moving tank and it maneuvers with the best fighters.
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2012, 01:00:57 PM »
I can't even do that without feeling dirty for a week.

The old 16 never ceases to amaze me. Nearly unropeable. Only aircraft that is more insane in performance is the Brewster (thank goodness it's slow). Both planes seem to accelerate from a stop instantly and hold E for weeks...almost as if they have no weight or drag.
Try doing some performance testing instead of just spewing idiotic hyperbole.  You'll find that both follow the same rules every other aircraft follows.
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2012, 01:09:15 PM »
Try doing some performance testing instead of just spewing idiotic hyperbole.  You'll find that both follow the same rules every other aircraft follows.
Try not to insult me for stating an opinion.
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2012, 01:18:42 PM »
Try not to insult me for stating an opinion.

Yeah he does that if you dont check with him first when posting anything about  any aircraft.  He also seems to miss the word SEEMS often
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2012, 02:11:08 PM »
He posted the same old BS whining and concern trolling that has been demonstrated to be false over and over.  Facts are facts, thus your opinion is bluntly wrong.  Being an opinion doesn't make it valid.
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2012, 02:23:40 PM »
He posted the same old BS whining and concern trolling that has been demonstrated to be false over and over.  Facts are facts, thus your opinion is bluntly wrong.  Being an opinion doesn't make it valid.
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2012, 02:34:26 PM »
Love that autocorrect!  :lol

You've never proven anything to me that i can remember. And I'm entitled to my opinion no matter how many times you come on these message boards and tell me I'm wrong. Insulting me is not helping your cause.
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Re: Spit16 vs. Flopping Dead Fish
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2012, 03:14:25 PM »
He posted the same old BS whining and concern trolling that has been demonstrated to be false over and over.  Facts are facts, thus your opinion is bluntly wrong.  Being an opinion doesn't make it valid.

STOP BITING the bait , you dont have to take the bait everytime Karnak at least make it a challenge. And what has been demonstrated as false over and over about his OPINION(which by default cant be false) The fact thta the Spixteen may be overmodled or the fact that the Brewster is?
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