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Offline Slade

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Dump It!
« on: October 12, 2012, 07:19:45 AM »
It would be nice to have an option to dump some of the fuel (say by %).  I have heard this was done in WWII on occasion.

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Offline Karnak

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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2012, 08:40:52 AM »
Very few, if any, WWII aircraft had the ability to dump fuel.
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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2012, 09:36:52 AM »
Thats why I drive tanks.  Every time I up an aircraft I seem to have no problem dumping fuel. Of course it's usually because of unsightly holes that appear in my wings for no apparent reason.  :aok
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Offline Slade

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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2012, 01:33:00 PM »
It was done.  How much is debatable.  We can never prove how much it was done with 100% accuracy.

If this is still the Wishlist forum = I wish it would be added to the game.

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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2012, 01:38:43 PM »
It was done.  How much is debatable.  We can never prove how much it was done with 100% accuracy.


Well, if a plane had no quick dump valves or similar, we can ;)
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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2012, 03:01:48 PM »
     Maybe Slade can use his .45 to dump fuel.  I know this was done at least once in a P-80 in Korea when the tip tank wouldn't
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Offline SmokinLoon

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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2012, 03:32:16 PM »

Please show me documentation that it was a practiced tactic in WWII, ya know, dump %99 of fuel in that P51D so it could turn as tight as a 109G on the deck.  Or maybe the 109G did that against the Yak?  oh oh oh, I know, I bet the 262 pilots did it so they should climb better? 

Yeah.  Right.  I have not found any documentation showing any of that, let alone knowing of any planes that had that capability (I'm sure there were, but for dumping fuel in flight. Probably a long term storage thing done by ground crews).

This I do know: Aircraft in WWII, especially in the PTO went up with %100 fuel.  If able they took DT's, too.  None of this %25 or %50 fuel and DT BS.  I wich HTC would code it so that DT's cant be taken unless the internal tanks are %100.  That would remove another one of the gamey-game tactics that the arcade frequenters us.  Of the 100+ entries my grandfather has in his pilot logs only a few times he went up w/o %100 fuel and that was to ferry B17's from one airfield to another (NM to CA).  Otherwise, even in the 1 hr flights he made from one island base to another ferrying mail and supplies in any one of the many cargo planes he flew between combat missions his plane *always* had %100 fuel.       
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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2012, 04:59:50 PM »
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Please show me documentation that it was a practiced tactic in WWII...

It took me less than 60 seconds to find an actual picture of a WWII plane dumping fuel.  If you are looking for this you will find it.  If you are looking to prove it did not happen you will find that too.   :old:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/losinggeorgia/2304879169/


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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2012, 05:50:45 PM »
It took me less than 60 seconds to find an actual picture of a WWII plane dumping fuel.  If you are looking for this you will find it.  If you are looking to prove it did not happen you will find that too.   :old:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/losinggeorgia/2304879169/




Not all planes had the ability to dump fuel, for example none of the fighters we have in game had the ability to dump fuel to the best of my knowledge. 

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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 09:12:47 AM »
not convinced that B17 is dumping fuel - there arent any feeds to that part of the wing. the drain valve is between the engines in front of the flaps and is for overflow/vapour release. dont have the manual handy but I dont remember seeing a facility for dumping fuel, we have a couple of AHers who fly/maintain B17s so they would know. the pic looks like a fuel or hydraulic leak to me.
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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 09:30:22 AM »
It took me less than 60 seconds to find an actual picture of a WWII plane dumping fuel.  If you are looking for this you will find it.  If you are looking to prove it did not happen you will find that too.   :old:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/losinggeorgia/2304879169/




A picture is NOT documentation. The picture could be of a restored model that has a dump option added to meet FAA requirements to have it re-certified.

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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2012, 09:50:26 AM »
A picture is NOT documentation. The picture could be of a restored model that has a dump option added to meet FAA requirements to have it re-certified.

Also looks like No 1 is shut down and feathered. I'd say leak from damage rather than a fuel dump.

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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2012, 10:03:18 AM »
It took me less than 60 seconds to find an actual picture of a WWII plane dumping fuel.  If you are looking for this you will find it.  If you are looking to prove it did not happen you will find that too.   :old:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/losinggeorgia/2304879169/
you might want to look closer and double check the facts...

Also looks like No 1 is shut down and feathered. I'd say leak from damage rather than a fuel dump.
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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2012, 10:56:47 AM »
It took me less than 60 seconds to find an actual picture of a WWII plane dumping fuel.  If you are looking for this you will find it.  If you are looking to prove it did not happen you will find that too.   :old:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/losinggeorgia/2304879169/



It took you less than 60 seconds to find a picture of a fuel leak.



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Re: Dump It!
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2012, 12:48:08 PM »
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A picture is NOT documentation. The picture could be of a restored model that has a dump option added to meet FAA requirements to have it re-certified.

It could be an alien attack craft from Ceti Alpha Seven disguised as a B-17.  There could be poptarts inside it.  The commanders name could be "Wally" or "Biff".

Is there anything published on the website by HiTech, is there anything in HiTech's actual words (not BBS hearsay) that limits what one is allowed to wish for?  THIS is an area I'd like to see the facts on.  In this way I'll more perfectly post wishes or not...if it does not meet HiTech's officially stated policy.  :old:
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