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Offline Bodhi

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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2012, 07:01:04 PM »
Whatever.  The players are ready to go.  The owners put a halt on the season because they want.

Of course the players are ready to go, the owners conceded ground to them last time, and they expect it again.  The funny thing is, this time the owners have conceded to 50%.  The players are still unhappy with that.  Keep in mind as well, that the players that are really driving this are the rich primadonnas that really only make up 10% of the league.  That group of 10% has convinced the majority of players they are better off making nothing for half a season and holding out.  Meanwhile, retired players like Mike Modano step up and reveal the truth of it and say that they never recouped the losses of that half season the last time the players tried this.

I say kudos to the owners.  Break this group of greedy primadonnas up.  A season off will cost the league for sure, but these primadonnas will pay far more in the long term when it comes to income.  Better yet would be for the owners to tell the NHLPA to eff off and bring in people that are more interested about the game then money...
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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2012, 07:17:04 PM »
What Canadians do in the absence of hockey...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JAbf-HHQ94


  Thats just propaganda to bring Americans here!   Every Canadian knows there's no open water during hockey season,you either play hockey or icefish. Lastweek I brought home 20lbs of ice! :devil



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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2012, 07:55:20 PM »
Of course the players are ready to go, the owners conceded ground to them last time, and they expect it again.  The funny thing is, this time the owners have conceded to 50%.  The players are still unhappy with that.  Keep in mind as well, that the players that are really driving this are the rich primadonnas that really only make up 10% of the league.  That group of 10% has convinced the majority of players they are better off making nothing for half a season and holding out.  Meanwhile, retired players like Mike Modano step up and reveal the truth of it and say that they never recouped the losses of that half season the last time the players tried this.

I say kudos to the owners.  Break this group of greedy primadonnas up.  A season off will cost the league for sure, but these primadonnas will pay far more in the long term when it comes to income.  Better yet would be for the owners to tell the NHLPA to eff off and bring in people that are more interested about the game then money...

Go check your facts  :(

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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2012, 08:56:16 PM »
I'm a middle class guy. I have a hard time looking at ANYONE with a salary of over a million dollars and feel ANY kind of sympathy. While I don't think the owners are totally with out blame, I think the players....and by players I mean that top 10% Bodhi is talking about... are the biggest problem. Personally I'd be happy to make a million a year playing hockey. I'm sure I'd be able to survive on it as it is a HUGE increase as compared to what I make now. A number of Bruins took smaller salaries then they could have gotten just to stay in Boston and PLAY hockey. We need more players like that, and less like the Crosby"s in the league.

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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2012, 03:53:26 AM »
Mondays and Wednesdays I wear my Penguin hat.
Tuesdays and Thursdays its the Avalanche hat
Weekends are Kings, Gretzky and Detroit.

And I have cute skirts for each of the above teams.
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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2012, 03:56:26 AM »
Mondays and Wednesdays I wear my Penguin hat.
Tuesdays and Thursdays its the Avalanche hat
Weekends are Kings, Gretzky and Detroit.

And I have cute skirts for each of the above teams.
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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2012, 04:01:19 AM »
Mondays and Wednesdays I wear my Penguin hat.
Tuesdays and Thursdays its the Avalanche hat
Weekends are Kings, Gretzky and Detroit.

And I have cute skirts for each of the above teams.
+Silat
"The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them." — Maya Angelou
"Conservatism offers no redress for the present, and makes no preparation for the future." B. Disraeli
"All that serves labor serves the nation. All that harms labor is treason."

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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2012, 04:21:54 AM »
Of course the players are ready to go, the owners conceded ground to them last time, and they expect it again.  The funny thing is, this time the owners have conceded to 50%.  The players are still unhappy with that.  Keep in mind as well, that the players that are really driving this are the rich primadonnas that really only make up 10% of the league.  That group of 10% has convinced the majority of players they are better off making nothing for half a season and holding out.  Meanwhile, retired players like Mike Modano step up and reveal the truth of it and say that they never recouped the losses of that half season the last time the players tried this.

I say kudos to the owners.  Break this group of greedy primadonnas up.  A season off will cost the league for sure, but these primadonnas will pay far more in the long term when it comes to income.  Better yet would be for the owners to tell the NHLPA to eff off and bring in people that are more interested about the game then money...

The owners conceded nothing. They made triple the profits in the last 3 years and now are trying to make the players take even less. The players came to the table and offered 4 points less and more but the owners want it all. Behind the scenes 2 of the owners are Ayn L Rand sociopaths and do not want the players to have any say in the league.
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"Conservatism offers no redress for the present, and makes no preparation for the future." B. Disraeli
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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2012, 08:38:51 AM »
Go check your facts  :(

I have checked the facts and I am tired of the whining about the owners.  Bottomline is there are a plethora of very talented people that can and more importantly, will step up and play the sport to replace those that are whining about their pay scale.  If you don't like it, don't play it. 

The owners are trying to break the entitlement attitude that is so prevalent across professional sports.  That and free agency have ruined most professional sports.
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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2012, 08:40:59 AM »
The owners conceded nothing. They made triple the profits in the last 3 years and now are trying to make the players take even less. The players came to the table and offered 4 points less and more but the owners want it all. Behind the scenes 2 of the owners are Ayn L Rand sociopaths and do not want the players to have any say in the league.

Silat, the ownership offered 50%.  That is more than fair.  Look into it some more.  This is about the salary increases the top 10% are now expecting each new contract.  At the rate they are continuing, only the top markets can compete and that is not good for the league, or the fan.
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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2012, 09:03:55 AM »
The owners should offer 40% and if the nhlpa denies it bring in replacements. The Players made more then enough money for playing hockey. The owners did the work and became very successful in business and bought the franchise, they OWN the team. The owners make the decisions and should get most of the profits. That is the way business works. Employers>employees. I would love to see some cyclones in red wings jerseys. Also the replacements was a great movie. also if this happened most nhl players would cross.  :rock

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Re: Hockey Withdrawals
« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2012, 02:20:38 PM »
No withdrawals here, played a scrimmage for 2 hours last night...with only 2 subs per team so short line changes and hard bloody work! I am wiped out today...

...and two games scheduled for tonight in our 3v3 league

and this is the NZ off-season!
Did you see my dad on dogfights yet?
I'll be seeing you face to face possibly next month.