CC Permit

[SilverZ06]

lol I heard Florida was easy to aquire a license. I'm wondering who can judge how safe someone handles a weapong with one shot and not even loading.

basically it was sitting on the table facing down range, they wanted you to pick it up, shoot, and set it back down facing down range. No twirling the gun or pointing it in another direction. It was a total joke. Like I said, even if you completely missed the 3'X3' target 10 feet in front of you, you were approved 

[SilverZ06]

By the way. I sold my 360pd (aka "the noisy cricket") to friend for $500 to help cover some of the cost of my shot gun I shoot sporting clays with. I am now back to my glock 27 as a carry piece (my original carry piece before the 360pd). Even being a subcompact it is just too bulky to comfortable conceal every day. I may get a pair of matching LCPs for the wife and I.


How cute would that be.  

[Seanaldinho]

I'm going to take a concealed carry handgun class first of november.  I bought a Ruger sr22 handgun for this.  I have small hands and cant get the fingers around a Clint Eastwood type gun.

Anybody else have one of these handguns?  I really like it so far... shot a box of rounds through it to get a little familiar with it.  I have a glock 40 but didnt want to take the class with it.  Also have a Ruger Mk 1 that has a long barrel, but shot another sr22 in oklahoma last year and really like it then.

I had a Walther P22 and my mom liked it so much she went and bought the SR22. The SR22 is a little more square but they both act nearly identical except for the clip release. Nice for going to the range and having fun but I still am not a fan of CC them.

We also have an LCP and a TCP. I think they are both too small and they tend to hurt the space between my thumb and index finger. My dads 1911 is perfect though. 

id love to get my hands on a p226...

[Shamus]

I carried concealed a Walther PPK in .380 ACP for over 12 years.  I shot it often and I shot it well (at the range and at pistol courses).  Thing is though, I have big hands and I was getting "bitten" on the webbing of my hand when the slide came back during firing.  I simply dealt with it because I really liked the PPK.  In 2002 I fired a Sig 232 in .380 ACP and instantly fell in love with the pistol.  It ultimately is not any bigger than the PPK, the grip has a slight palm swell and it also has a slight "beaver tail" on the top of the back strap of the grip preventing me from getting bit by the slide when fired.  I traded in my PPK in 2002 and since then I've been carrying concealed the Sig 232 in a Galco open top holster as often as I can.

Thankfully, I've not ever had to use it.   

I ran a couple of box's each through a PPK and a P230 back in 1989 before choosing the Sig, been carrying it ever since, great gun.

shamus

[katanaso]

id love to get my hands on a p226...

FYI:  http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100000451&dir=



From what I've ready of others, and including mine, they're German models, manufactured in the late 80's and early 90's.

[Rich46yo]

When you have started with the .38/9mm handgun, loaded with a quality JHP defense load, you have then entered the realm of where bullet placement far outweighs caliber discussion. Or even magazine capacity. The fact is handguns are not very good stoppers. You have to use a decent load and absolutly have to place the bullet in a vital region.

[mbailey]

When you have started with the .38/9mm handgun, loaded with a quality JHP defense load, you have then entered the realm of where bullet placement far outweighs caliber discussion. Or even magazine capacity. The fact is handguns are not very good stoppers. You have to use a decent load and absolutly have to place the bullet in a vital region.

I run CorBon 125gr JHPs thru my P225, good load. Actually i use CorBons in all my carry guns. My Kimber ProCarry (CDP) and my Wilson CQB feeds them like there lubed with silk  

And I agree its all bullet placement

[Seanaldinho]

FYI:  http://wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100000451&dir=



From what I've ready of others, and including mine, they're German models, manufactured in the late 80's and early 90's.

Id prefer .40, but looks like a good deal.
Im just not a fan of 9mm.

[katanaso]

I run CorBon 125gr JHPs thru my P225, good load. Actually i use CorBons in all my carry guns. My Kimber ProCarry (CDP) and my Wilson CQB feeds them like there lubed with silk  

And I agree its all bullet placement

Looks like a nice round.

I use Federal HST 124 +P in my 9mms.  I may have to try a box of the CorBon.  It appears to be slightly faster and have a little more hitting power.  Thanks for making me want to spend another $25 or so...   

I use DoubleTap 180 JHP in my 10mm. 

[SmokinLoon]

Most of the Corbon stuff presents amazing results when fired in to ballistic gelatin.  However, the lighter weight bullet than average, the thinner than average jacket, and the higher than average velocities do lend to the bullet not being able to penetrate as well when there are mediums between the gun and the target.  If the Corbon needs to defeat glass, heavy winter clothing,  or other such common mediums found in every day life there is a high probability that the target will receive a bunch of shrapnel instead of a slug, according to the multiple studies I've seen.  Corbon ammo is great stuff and produced amazing wound channels when tested directly on ballistic gelatin, but it fell behind when tested against mediums.  Just be mindful of that.

I simple use a good HP with a known record of success.  The Hyrda-Shoks and Gold Dots seem to lead the way.  There are many others that will work well.  The Silver Tip and Golden Sabre are good too.     

[Rondar]

Well, I spent the day in this class and passed it.  Now I am entitled to apply for a cch permit.  A lot of eye opening whatifs, and consequences and stuff like that.  A lot of stuff to think about that can be life changing events for yourself and the other "party".  The shooting part was fun and was a breeze.

[Dimebag]

grats on passing the class

if the need arises, shoot to kill

[mbailey]

Well, I spent the day in this class and passed it.  Now I am entitled to apply for a cch permit.  A lot of eye opening whatifs, and consequences and stuff like that.  A lot of stuff to think about that can be life changing events for yourself and the other "party".  The shooting part was fun and was a breeze.

Congratulations 

Glad they gave you some food for thought information. I actually wish PA would do the same.

[mthrockmor]

My Dad is an expert shot. In fact, at one point ranked in the top-10 in America for slow-fire pistol shoot and combat shooting. He was a 30-year veteran police officer, trained FBI shooters, etc.

Unless you have hands the size of a 5-year old boy what my Dad would tell you is to work on grip strength. His hands or normal size though his preferred weapon for slow fire is the .45, which has a "Clint Eastwood" sized grip. When you shake my Dad's hand its like a little ball of muscle, that is key. It is all about a stable grib and strong fingers for an even squeeze on the trigger.

I would suggest you buy one of those hand grip devices and squeeze it 500 times a day. Even if you buy a smaller weapon that is more comfortable it is your hand strength that will determine accuracy.

Just my two cents (via hundreds of lectures from the master).

Boo

[SmokinLoon]

My Dad is an expert shot. In fact, at one point ranked in the top-10 in America for slow-fire pistol shoot and combat shooting. He was a 30-year veteran police officer, trained FBI shooters, etc.

Unless you have hands the size of a 5-year old boy what my Dad would tell you is to work on grip strength. His hands or normal size though his preferred weapon for slow fire is the .45, which has a "Clint Eastwood" sized grip. When you shake my Dad's hand its like a little ball of muscle, that is key. It is all about a stable grib and strong fingers for an even squeeze on the trigger.

I would suggest you buy one of those hand grip devices and squeeze it 500 times a day. Even if you buy a smaller weapon that is more comfortable it is your hand strength that will determine accuracy.

Just my two cents (via hundreds of lectures from the master).

Boo

Interesting that you bring up grip.  If we go "by the book", it says to use %40 of your total grip from the main hand and %60 of your grip comes from the "support" hand (outside).  Yes, you heard that correctly.  For a right handed shooter the right hand should be about %40 of the total grip, and the left hand as it wraps around the right hand should give about %60 of the grip pressure.  The the thumb of the right hand high enough so the heel of the left hand can actually touch the guns left grip panel.  The right thumb should rest on top of the left thumb.  I've seen people squeeze so hard on their handgun that it shakes, too tight of a grip works against the shooter.  Instead, the stiffness needs to come from the arms most notably between the elbows and wrists.  The gun in the hands should not move at all, so indeed the bigger and more powerful the cartridge the more fatigue that the shooter is going to experience.  I can shoot 9mm all day long from my Sig 226, but when I carried the .357 Sig in my Sig 226 for that 12-18 months or so I certainly could tell I had been shooting something with some gusto after a few boxes of ammo.