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Offline chaser

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Rounds going through tanks
« on: October 17, 2012, 11:52:33 PM »
I've emailed HTC about this with film at least twice and maybe a 3rd time and I've never gotten a response from them about the issue. So I'll put it up for debate on the BBS. I constantly have shells fired from my tanks that go through the tank I'm shooting at and land behind them, doing no damage. Sometimes 4 or 5 in a row will do this giving them plenty of time to shoot me. I've discovered it really doesn't matter what location of the tank you hit, I've hit hull, turret, upper broad side, lower broad side, rear, I've seen rounds go through all of them. It's not a specific part of the tank that causes this. I have noticed though that it happens most often when I'm shooting at T34-85's and 76's and Panthers coming in behind them. So how about you guys? Do y'all have this problem to?

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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 12:13:58 AM »
Use search on the BBS and you will find ytour answer
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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 12:40:29 AM »
Set the fuse on the cannon ball to go off while it's inside the tank as it's passing through! ;)










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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 12:45:03 AM »
happens to me all the time  :devil
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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 03:23:01 AM »
I can't answer for HTC, though this matter is not a new one, a couple of straight forward answers could help with an explanation, even if were not the official or 100% accurate one.

Two things that I can recall were discussed in the past.  1) A round strikes the object and does not hit critical component, and thus tank is fully operational.  2nd) A round strikes the object and is deflected by the armor and / or slope of armor doing its job, and thus tank is fully operational.

In your film, I don't know if it is possible to detect nearby supplies or not, but that presents a possible 3rd answer for multiple hits on a still operational tank.  Having said above that there are reasonable explanations, I will still gamble there are far more forces involved, and some may not give us the results that we would hope they would, but for the most part, things work the way one would think they would with some exceptions.

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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 03:35:13 AM »
A round that penetrate a tank does considerable damage to crew, and interior parts , how much depends on where, and how much energy it still has.
A better damage-model would be needed to fix that.

If your tank is fully penetrated, you won't do any good in it for a considerable time.

 I remember when someone hit my tank with a pneumatic sledgehammer during repairs in a workshop:
 I was using my tank helmet with headphones, still I was stunned by the blast for a while, ( imagine a Disney cartoon, someone hitting a wall and have little birds flying circles over his head  :rolleyes: ) , even with that small amount of energy it created.
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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 04:26:18 AM »
ok it's an optical illusion.  the round actually stops when it hits the tank.  but due to game mechanics you see the round go thru and hit behind it.  this has been explained by hitech many times.  just not in the exact words as me.


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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 06:24:30 AM »
Set the fuse on the cannon ball to go off while it's inside the tank as it's passing through! ;)










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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 11:59:59 PM »
ok it's an optical illusion.  the round actually stops when it hits the tank.  but due to game mechanics you see the round go thru and hit behind it.  this has been explained by hitech many times.  just not in the exact words as me.


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It can't be. That does not explain the lack of damage done by the round. Sometimes you can hit a tank 5,6,7 times and every one goes through, yet it doesn't kill them. If you hit a panzer or even a T-34 broad side that many times, it's going to die.

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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2012, 12:18:43 AM »
Its one of those things you hope get fixed sometime in the future like the Panther's Front lower hull. As of right now an M4(75) can pentrate a Panther from the nose, reality is almost no tank could.
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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2012, 12:31:59 AM »
It can't be. That does not explain the lack of damage done by the round. Sometimes you can hit a tank 5,6,7 times and every one goes through, yet it doesn't kill them. If you hit a panzer or even a T-34 broad side that many times, it's going to die.

listen hitech himself explained it before on another thread.  your end sees the round as it goes thru the tank and hits the dirt on the other side but that's not really what happens, the round stopped when it hit the other tank.  this is the reason why when you there's two tanks next to each other you may see the round go thru but it doesnt damage the second tank. fly over the town when there are tanks shooting at buildings and you will see what I mean, you can clearly see the rounds go thru several buildings but only damage 1.  I havent flown over towns with tanks lately but lots of have seen that before.


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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2012, 09:37:02 AM »
listen hitech himself explained it before on another thread.  your end sees the round as it goes thru the tank and hits the dirt on the other side but that's not really what happens, the round stopped when it hit the other tank.  this is the reason why when you there's two tanks next to each other you may see the round go thru but it doesnt damage the second tank. fly over the town when there are tanks shooting at buildings and you will see what I mean, you can clearly see the rounds go thru several buildings but only damage 1.  I havent flown over towns with tanks lately but lots of have seen that before.


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You see the same thing when GVs are shooting up a town. The rounds you see coming out are not misses. They hit and destroy a building but you see the round continue till it hits the grouns somewhere way outside of town.
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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2012, 10:39:44 AM »
I think you guys missed the tidbit that it's happening to the OP from HIS tank...not that he's observing a fight from the outside.

I constantly have shells fired from my tanks that go through the tank I'm shooting at and land behind them, doing no damage. Sometimes 4 or 5 in a row will do this giving them plenty of time to shoot me.

Perhaps it's a VSync issue...is it being forced on, or is it set to off (so you can see that you're getting 250fps)?
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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2012, 11:06:36 AM »
If everyone does not have that happening then it has to be settings.
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Re: Rounds going through tanks
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2012, 11:20:37 AM »
We look at all tank films that claim damage bugs, and have not received any from you.

please send again to support@hitechcreations.com

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