I Predict the Next Plane HTC Brings Forth Will Be...

[Lusche]

Ah.  I was thinking the Boston Mk III might out perform the P-40C.

/serious mode ON

In some aspects it does. The Boston is faster up to about 13K and can even outclimb the 40C at up to about 5K

[nrshida]

Guess the P-40C ain't a fighter as well then 

I said new fighter, not a variant 

[Lusche]

I said new fighter, not a variant 

You are quoting out of context. The 40C isn't the new fighter we got last update. The 410 is, and it ain't a variant

[nrshida]

The 410 is

  Good one! And they say you Germans have no sense of humour 

[Lusche]

Good one! And they say you Germans have no sense of humour 

That saying is right! 

[nrshida]

New P-40 variants and remodel, New P-47 variants, New A6M variant and remodel...

My point is if the P-47s we have don't interest me very much, I'm hardly going to be drawn to fly a new variant a lot. Apart from the Brewster and that hideous Russian convertible, when did we last receive a new fighter airframe? 

[Karnak]

Me410

[Lusche]

Apart from the Brewster and that hideous Russian convertible, when did we last receive a new fighter airframe? 

AH is getting like real life... I'm being increasingly ignored 

[nrshida]

Cobblers!

The Germans even removed it from service because its k/d ratio was so poor  


Not ignoring you Lusche, old bean, just the meaning of fighter to me is something that can actually put up a fight 

[Lusche]

Not ignoring you Lusche, old bean, just the meaning of fighter to me is something that can actually put up a fight  

That's more the definition of a "good fighter". Following your argumentation, we could again drop a few single engine fighters in AH from the "fighter" list...

The 410 can put up a fight in AH. It's just somewhat difficult. But it was being designed and used to combat enemy planes, and it is being used that way in AH. Chris3 has 469 kills to 280 deaths in it. Even I have 101 kills in it, and against enemy fighters I still have a 3-1 k/d


Addendum:

This is an excerpt from last tours fighter kill list. Second row is number of air to air kills, third row is air to ground. As you can see, the 410 did see quite a good portion of fighter usage...

[MK-84]

or a 4 20mm variant of the KI84

I really don't want you to have that

[MK-84]

Guess the P-40C ain't a fighter as well then 

Nobody said "good fighter" or "supreme air superiority fighter". Just because some people are disappointed, it doesn't make it a bomber, and last time i checked it was still put under 'fighter' in the hangar

I've been having quite a bit of fun in the P-40C this tour.  It isnt nearly half as bad as I think the reputation that it has been given.

[Lusche]

It isnt nearly half as bad as I think the reputation that it has been given.

Just as the Me 410

[nrshida]

That's more the definition of a "good fighter". Following your argumentation, we could again drop a few single engine fighters in AH from the "fighter" list...

Not really, more a definition of an aircraft which falls below the classification of a fighter I should say. Didn't the Germans drop the 'heavy fighter' concept as a consequence of the 410? Even some of AH's die hard Luft fans seem disillusioned with it now that it is here.

Sorry Lusche but I don't place much value on a score table to be a informative measure of how much of a 'fighter' an aircraft is.

P.S. A vertical list of figures is a column, rows are horizontal  

[Lusche]

Not really, more a definition of an aircraft which falls below the classification of a fighter I should say. Didn't the Germans drop the 'heavy fighter' concept as a consequence of the 410? Even some of AH's die hard Luft fans seem disillusioned with it now that it is here.

You are still trying to define a "good fighter".  The fact that the 410 was phased out due to heavy losses doen't change the fact it was designed and USED as a fighter. When the Gladiator or Defiant was removed from the front lines, did that mean they weren't fighters?