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Offline Paladin3

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New ISP Adjustment
« on: October 21, 2012, 05:08:38 PM »
I was on a week ago when Skuzzy was talking about how they had changed something with their internet connection. I just wanted to say I am glad that we are working on new things, but ever since I have seen allot more warping throughout the arenas, as have a couple of my squaddies. I am not a fan since it has made it less smooth for me. Anyone else have any thoughts? Noticed anything different?

I looked for a thread on this topic and came up dry.
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Offline LilMak

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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2012, 05:21:13 PM »
A lot more mini-warps since the change over.
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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2012, 05:39:48 PM »
I've noticed that too.

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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2012, 06:24:48 PM »
You guys should run ping plotter and post the runs for Skuzzy to look at. I know my run went from 16 hops to the old server to 10 with the new. My pings look about the same and I haven't noticed anything different in the game. The more info Skuzzy has the better the decision he can make when it comes time to decide which server to use.
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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2012, 06:27:00 PM »
Quote from: The Fugitive on October 21, 2012, 06:24:48 PM
You guys should run ping plotter and post the runs for Skuzzy to look at. I know my run went from 16 hops to the old server to 10 with the new. My pings look about the same and I haven't noticed anything different in the game. The more info Skuzzy has the better the decision he can make when it comes time to decide which server to use.

I notice a lot more enemies warping since the change also. Like 1 in 8 will warp.. It is noticeably worse.
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Offline Scotch

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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2012, 08:43:24 PM »
Yes I notice it
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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2012, 10:27:32 PM »
Quote from: Paladin3 on October 21, 2012, 05:08:38 PM
I was on a week ago when Skuzzy was talking about how they had changed something with their internet connection. I just wanted to say I am glad that we are working on new things, but ever since I have seen allot more warping throughout the arenas, as have a couple of my squaddies. I am not a fan since it has made it less smooth for me. Anyone else have any thoughts? Noticed anything different?

I looked for a thread on this topic and came up dry.
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Offline Wizer

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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 06:43:11 AM »
This topic is discussed in Technical Support under the subject of Connection woes.
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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2012, 11:12:20 AM »
Before I entered the arena friggin 180 pings when it was usually only 50....  :huh
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Offline LCADolby

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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2012, 11:25:07 AM »
Yes, lots more mini warps.  :(

check through ping plotter if the causes is this ho; 207.88.14.34.ptr.us.xo.net

This hop I believe may be the very cause of any connection woes. The ping through it is unstable to say the least
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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2012, 12:17:36 PM »
I cannot do anything with the above comments.  They do not provide anything really useful.

We know there have been ongoing problems with Comcast.  Nothing we can do about that.  We also know the new ISP location has had a poor route for the British players, but they have been working on it and for most it should better better now, or the same as before (they are using the same route as the old ISP).

The new ISP has direct connections with 11 Tier 1 backbone providers.  Our current ISP has one connection.

Every analysis I have run to anyone in the U.S. shows the same levels of performance between both ISP's.  They also show the same problems, as they are pretty much using the same routes.

However, the Internet is a dynamic beast.  What is true today, may not be true tomorrow.  Without data, there is little I can do.  It is within your power to check your own connection.  You do not have to listen to me or anyone else.  Grab Ping Plotter, and run it to the following IP addresses (the longer the run, the better):

New: 66.151.248.2
Old: 206.16.60.38

I need both to be able to compare.  I will then run a test to your location and see what it looks like as well.

This way we get real data which can help far more than general comments will ever do.

Thank you.
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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2012, 05:55:45 PM »
Ok, sure I can do that... However I was going off of stability before, and that you ran it that first weekend and said I was a little worse. I was just asking the community at large if others had noticed the same thing or if it was just me, not screaming fix it. Although yeah, if it wasn't broke for me before and is worse now, sure that is irritating. How long should I run it and how do I post it? I found a file, save image command and saved that.
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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2012, 06:00:34 PM »
Target Name: N/A
         IP: 206.16.60.38
  Date/Time: 22-Oct-12 18:55:29 to 22-Oct-12 18:57:29

 1    6 ms    7 ms    7 ms   12 ms    8 ms    7 ms    7 ms    8 ms    7 ms  [96.70.159.1]
 2    8 ms    8 ms    7 ms    7 ms    8 ms    7 ms    8 ms    7 ms    7 ms  te-9-3-ur02.sharpsridge.tn.knox.comcast.net [69.139.205.205]
 3    7 ms    8 ms    7 ms    8 ms    8 ms    8 ms    8 ms    7 ms    8 ms  te-6-3-ar01.bluelight.tn.knox.comcast.net [68.85.171.205]
 4   13 ms   15 ms   15 ms   15 ms   19 ms   15 ms   15 ms   14 ms   16 ms  xe-0-0-2-0-ar01.goodslettvll.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.86.176.137]
 5   25 ms   25 ms   23 ms   26 ms   26 ms   27 ms   23 ms   25 ms   24 ms  pos-5-5-0-0-cr01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.101]
 6   22 ms   25 ms   26 ms   23 ms   25 ms   22 ms   23 ms   23 ms   27 ms  pos-0-1-0-0-pe01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.86]
 7   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms   22 ms   23 ms   23 ms   23 ms  as7018-pe01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.228.86]
 8   46 ms   44 ms   45 ms   44 ms   46 ms   46 ms   46 ms   44 ms   44 ms  cr1.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.141.182]
 9   43 ms   42 ms   43 ms   42 ms   43 ms   41 ms   43 ms   47 ms   45 ms  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.174]
10   41 ms   41 ms   43 ms   42 ms   43 ms   47 ms   41 ms   41 ms   58 ms  ggr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.1]
11   42 ms   44 ms   42 ms  N/A     N/A      43 ms   42 ms  N/A      42 ms  [12.122.251.70]
12   43 ms   44 ms   42 ms   42 ms   *       43 ms   42 ms   42 ms   43 ms  mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.193.10]
13   42 ms   42 ms   42 ms   41 ms   40 ms   41 ms   43 ms   41 ms   42 ms  [206.16.60.38]

Ping statistics for 206.16.60.38
Packets: Sent = 9, Received = 9, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 40ms, Maximum = 43ms, Average = 41ms



Target Name: N/A
         IP: 66.151.248.2
  Date/Time: 22-Oct-12 18:58:07 to 22-Oct-12 19:00:22

 1    8 ms   18 ms    7 ms    6 ms    8 ms    6 ms    6 ms    7 ms    6 ms    8 ms  [96.70.159.1]
 2    7 ms    8 ms    8 ms    7 ms    7 ms    6 ms    7 ms   12 ms    7 ms    9 ms  te-9-3-ur01.sharpsridge.tn.knox.comcast.net [69.139.205.201]
 3    7 ms    8 ms    9 ms    7 ms    7 ms    6 ms    7 ms    7 ms    7 ms    8 ms  te-8-3-ur02.sharpsridge.tn.knox.comcast.net [68.86.136.77]
 4    7 ms    8 ms    7 ms    8 ms   12 ms    7 ms    7 ms    7 ms    7 ms    8 ms  te-6-3-ar01.bluelight.tn.knox.comcast.net [68.85.171.205]
 5   17 ms   18 ms   15 ms   20 ms   14 ms   14 ms   14 ms   17 ms   14 ms   18 ms  xe-0-0-1-0-ar01.goodslettvll.tn.nash.comcast.net [68.85.171.190]
 6   26 ms   24 ms   24 ms   21 ms   26 ms   23 ms   22 ms   24 ms   25 ms   27 ms  pos-5-4-0-0-cr01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.90.189]
 7   23 ms   27 ms   23 ms   24 ms   24 ms   22 ms   37 ms   27 ms   26 ms   26 ms  pos-0-2-0-0-pe01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.86.166]
 8   22 ms   22 ms   23 ms   22 ms   22 ms   22 ms   *       22 ms   21 ms   27 ms  as7018-pe01.56marietta.ga.ibone.comcast.net [75.149.228.86]
 9   45 ms   45 ms   43 ms   43 ms   42 ms   42 ms   45 ms   45 ms   44 ms   46 ms  cr1.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.141.182]
10   42 ms   48 ms   45 ms   44 ms   49 ms   47 ms   45 ms   43 ms   44 ms   44 ms  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.174]
11   40 ms   41 ms   41 ms   40 ms   58 ms   *       40 ms   41 ms   40 ms   42 ms  ggr6.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.113]
12   41 ms   45 ms   43 ms   45 ms   47 ms   41 ms   41 ms   43 ms   41 ms   44 ms  [12.90.228.14]
13   50 ms   52 ms   46 ms   51 ms   46 ms   48 ms   52 ms   54 ms   46 ms   52 ms  border1.te4-1-bbnet2.dal006.pnap.net [216.52.191.66]
14   53 ms   56 ms   48 ms   49 ms   46 ms   48 ms   52 ms   56 ms   47 ms   52 ms  [66.151.248.2]

Ping statistics for 66.151.248.2
Packets: Sent = 10, Received = 10, Lost = 0 (0.0%)
Round Trip Times: Minimum = 46ms, Maximum = 56ms, Average = 50ms




Nevermind, I obviously figured it out  :lol
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Offline Lusche

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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2012, 07:25:37 PM »
New server:

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 66.151.248.2
  Date/Time: 23.10.2012 02:16:40 to 23.10.2012 02:19:50

Hop Sent Err   PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1    20   0   0,0   1   3   1  [192.168.1.1]
 2    20   0   0,0   8  17  10  esn1ibr2-xdsl.versatel.de [62.214.64.97]
 3    20   0   0,0   8 123  24  ge-1-8-v511.esn001isp006.versatel.de [62.214.105.197]
 4    20   0   0,0   9  60  15  fra20ip6.versatel.de [62.214.104.174]
 5    20   0   0,0  14 220  38  10g-8-4.hhb002isp005.versatel.de [62.214.110.122]
 6    20   0   0,0  14  16  14  hmb-s2-rou-1103.DE.eurorings.net [134.222.120.117]
 7    20   0   0,0 106 123 109  dssd-s2-rou-1102.DE.eurorings.net [134.222.229.57]
 8    20   0   0,0 106 152 109  asd2-rou-1022.NL.eurorings.net [134.222.228.73]
 9    20   0   0,0  27  33  28  rt2-rou-1022.NL.eurorings.net [134.222.231.130]
10    20   0   0,0 106 132 110  nyk-s1-rou-1021.US.eurorings.net [134.222.226.174]
11    20   0   0,0 106 138 109  nyk-s1-rou-1001.US.eurorings.net [134.222.231.237]
12    20   0   0,0  99 193 104  [134.222.249.238]
13    20  20 100,0   0   0   0   [-]
14    20   0   0,0 146 148 146  [67.133.189.94]
15    20   7  35,0 146 179 149  border1.te4-1-bbnet2.dal006.pnap.net [216.52.191.66]
16    20   7  35,0 147 160 148  [66.151.248.2]


Old server:

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 206.16.60.38
  Date/Time: 23.10.2012 02:20:44 to 23.10.2012 02:23:54

Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1    20   0 0,0   1   2   1  [192.168.1.1]
 2    20   0 0,0   8  20   9  esn1ibr2-xdsl.versatel.de [62.214.64.97]
 3    20   0 0,0   8 134  16  ge-1-8-v511.esn001isp006.versatel.de [62.214.105.197]
 4    20   0 0,0   8 137  23  [62.214.111.25]
 5    20   0 0,0   9 194  34  10g-9-1.dus002isp005.versatel.de [62.214.110.233]
 6    20   0 0,0   9  83  16  [212.162.17.5]
 7    20   0 0,0   9  62  14  vl-3201-ve-128.ebr2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.69.161.133]
 8    20   0 0,0  12  73  15  ae-45-45.ebr1.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.143.197]
 9    20   0 0,0  12  55  14  ae-1-100.ebr2.Amsterdam1.Level3.net [4.69.141.170]
10    20   0 0,0  20  60  22  ae-47-47.ebr2.London1.Level3.net [4.69.143.78]
11    20   0 0,0  88 106  89  ae-44-44.ebr1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.137.78]
12    20   0 0,0  88 105  91  ae-61-61.csw1.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.134.66]
13    20   0 0,0  87 152  93  ae-1-60.edge3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.69.155.17]
14    20   0 0,0  91 222  98  att-level3.newyork1.level3.net [4.68.63.142]
15    20   0 0,0 134 240 141  cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.130.170]
16    20   0 0,0 134 248 141  cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.3.38]
17    20   0 0,0 134 187 140  cr1.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.1.173]
18    20   0 0,0 133 205 138  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.174]
19    20   0 0,0 132 328 158  ggr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.1]
20     9   0 0,0 133 135 133  [12.122.251.66]
21    20   0 0,0 133 237 141  mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.193.10]
22    20   0 0,0 132 197 136  [206.16.60.38]



Both plots are rather typical. Many troubles with the new location.
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Re: New ISP Adjustment
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2012, 09:11:33 PM »
Old Server

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 206.16.60.41
  Date/Time: 10/22/2012 10:07:58 PM to 10/22/2012 10:08:17 PM

Hop Sent Err  PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1    20   0  0.0   1  37   3  WRT610N [192.168.1.1]
 2    20   0  0.0  10  83  21  [10.241.112.1]
 3    20   0  0.0  11  86  27  dtr01sbdgma-tge-4-3.sbdg.ma.charter.com [96.34.84.158]
 4    20   0  0.0  11  70  23  crr03oxfrma-tge-0-1-0-0.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.80.116]
 5    20   0  0.0  12  54  21  bbr01oxfrma-bue-1.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.2.12]
 6    20   0  0.0  24 110  35  bst-edge-04.inet.qwest.net [72.164.154.201]
 7    20   0  0.0  23 106  37  jfk-brdr-04.inet.qwest.net [67.14.5.26]
 8    20   0  0.0  24 140  37  [63.146.26.2]
 9    20   0  0.0  58 133  74  cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.80.238]
10    20   0  0.0  59 166  77  cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.3.38]
11    20   0  0.0  57 137  71  cr1.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.1.173]
12    20   0  0.0  58 125  74  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.174]
13    20   0  0.0  56 166  76  ggr1.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.1]
14    10   0  0.0  57 104  69  [12.122.251.66]
15    20   2 10.0  57 124  76  mdf001c7613r0004-gig-12-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.193.14]
16    20   0  0.0  57 146  86  [206.16.60.41]


New server

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 66.151.248.2
  Date/Time: 10/22/2012 10:09:16 PM to 10/22/2012 10:09:36 PM

Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1    20   0 0.0   1  56  17  WRT610N [192.168.1.1]
 2    20   0 0.0  10  83  35  [10.241.112.1]
 3    20   0 0.0  11  90  30  dtr01sbdgma-tge-4-3.sbdg.ma.charter.com [96.34.84.158]
 4    20   0 0.0  11  92  28  crr03oxfrma-tge-0-1-0-0.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.80.116]
 5    20   0 0.0  12  94  32  bbr01oxfrma-bue-1.oxfr.ma.charter.com [96.34.2.12]
 6    20   0 0.0  24 104  44  bst-edge-04.inet.qwest.net [72.164.154.201]
 7    20   0 0.0  57 206  86  dax-edge-03.inet.qwest.net [67.14.2.166]
 8    20   1 5.0  58 177  76  [67.133.189.94]
 9    20   0 0.0  58 218  73  border1.te4-1-bbnet2.dal006.pnap.net [216.52.191.66]
10    20   0 0.0  59 229  76  [66.151.248.2]


I don't normally see issue with the old server and haven't seen anything with the new either.
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