A swarm of Mosquitos

[tuton25]

Bombers:
Mk. IV - could carry x4 250lbs or x4 500lbs bombs. It was used in precision low level raids over Germany

Mk. IX - could carry x2 4,000lbs "cookie" bombs


Fighters:

Mk. XV - Carried x4 .303 machine guns, was used as an ultra high altitude interceptor. It was extremely light and manuverable

Mk. XXX - Carried x4 20mm and x4 .303 macine guns, used as a high altitude interceptor

Fighter-Bombers:

Mk. XVIII - Carried a 57mm cannon and x2 or x4 .303 machine guns

These would be the best mosquitos to add to the game

[Butcher]

Mk. XV sounds good, but yeah... you want to try to shoot something down with 4x 303s? Dont think so.

Mk 30 is fine.
Mk IV makes no sense since our version can do that.

Mk 9 would be interesting, although I never heard of a mossy carrying 2x 4000lbs?

[gyrene81]

Mk. IX - could carry x2 4,000lbs "cookie" bombs

really? i'd like to see your reference...

B.IX Bomber. First high altitude unarmed bomber. Merlin 72 intercooled engines with two speed, two stage superchargers. Capacity for four 500lb bombs in the fuselage and two 500lb bombs on the wings or extra fuselage fuel tanks and 50 gallon jettisonable wing tanks. A few were converted to take one 4000lb bomb in the fuselage with two 50 gallon jettisonable wing tanks which were later in 1944 replaced by 100 gallon jettisonable wing tanks subject to a weight limitation of 25,200lb. A Pathfinder version was developed by the RAF.

[Karnak]

Mosquito B.Mk IX was the first Mosquito bomber with high blown engines.  It could carry four 500lb bombs in the bomb bay (maybe one under each wing, I don't recall), but not a 4,000lb bomb.  The Mosquito B.Mk IX 'Special' was modified to have an enlarged bomb bay enabling it to carry a single 4,000lb 'cookie'.  It was basically halfway between the Mosquito B.Mk IV and the Mosquito B.Mk XVI.  The Mosquito Mk IX really isn't needed in AH.

The first Mosquito bomber built in the factory to take the 4,000lb 'cookie' was the Mosquito B.Mk XVI.  The first Mosquito bomber to carry a 4,000lb 'cookie' was a Mosquito B.Mk IV 'Special', but the single stage, less powerful Merlin 21s on the Mk IV made it a struggle to carry that much weight.

If I wanted to get functionally complete coverage of Mosquitoes in AH, I would suggest the following:

Mosquito Mk II - First fighter powered by Merlin 21s or 23s (less powerful than the Mk VI's Merlin 25s) that lacked any bomb capacity and had an earlier, weaker wing.  Guns identical to the Mk VI. Available in 1942.

Mosquito Mk IV - First bomber version powered by Merlin 21s, could carry four 500lb bombs in the bomb bay and had an earlier, weaker wing. Available in 1942.

Mosquito Mk XVIII - Fighter-Bomber with a 57mm automatic cannon in place of the four 20mm cannons, powered by Merlin 25s, bomb bay taken by the cannon but underwing ordnance possible as on Mk VI and with 1,000lbs more armor protecting the engines and cockpit. Available in 1943 or 1944, don't recall.

Mosquito Mk 30 - Late war fighter with high blown engines, no .303s, larger ammo load for the 20mm cannons, no bomb bay though a 500lb bomb could be carried under each wing. Available in 1944.

Those four would complete the Mosquito lineup to all reasonable degrees.  Single digit, didn't see use things like the Mk XV aren't really needed.  Nor is the relatively low production, halfway step B.Mk IX/

[kvuo75]

deja vu

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,338942.0.html

[Karnak]

Mk. XV sounds good, but yeah... you want to try to shoot something down with 4x 303s? Dont think so.

Wasn't used as the Ju86 "threat" evaporated.

Mk 30 is fine.

Agreed.  Personally the one I would get the most use out of.

Mk IV makes no sense since our version can do that.

I disagree with you here though.  The Mk IV was available much earlier than the Mk XVI and would be a perk bomber in the EWA, perhaps still in the MWA and a free Mossie bomber in the LWA.  It would also be useful for earlier scenarios.

Mk 9 would be interesting, although I never heard of a mossy carrying 2x 4000lbs?

The Mk IX was relatively low production and can be functionally covered by the Mk IV and Mk XVI.

[Tilt]

Mk 30 to give us escort capacity for the MkXVI  on HQ raids.............  Please.

[Karnak]

Mk 30 to give us escort capacity for the MkXVI  on HQ raids.............  Please.

I've never read of a Mk XVI being escorted by another Mosquito.

I've read of Mosquito Mk VIs escorting Beaufighters.
I've read of Mosquito Mk VIs escorting other Mosquito Mk VIs.
I've read of Mosquito Mk VIs escorting Mosquito Mk XVIIIs.
I've read of Mosquito Mk 30s escorting Lancasters on daylight raids in 1945.

[Butcher]

I've wanted the Mk30 Mossy just to have a high alt interceptor, the Mossy we have now does pretty good under 20k, but above it seriously lags in a fight, it cannot retain e at all.

Me410 is alright, but the Mossy would be 415mph with just as nice gunpackage.

[Karnak]

Yeah, the reason I want the Mosquito Mk 30 is for interception as well.

Scherf was saying it should do 425ish without the dampers and 415ish with flame dampers.

[Butcher]

Yeah, the reason I want the Mosquito Mk 30 is for interception as well.

Scherf was saying it should do 425ish without the dampers and 415ish with flame dampers.

Everything I have shows 407mph, think we discussed this a while back I can't remember, I didn't see in details why it was slower then everything you had.

[RTHolmes]

Mosquito Mk XVIII - Fighter-Bomber with a 57mm automatic cannon in place of the four 20mm cannons, powered by Merlin 25s, bomb bay taken by the cannon but underwing ordnance possible as on Mk VI and with 1,000lbs more armor protecting the engines and cockpit. Available in 1943 or 1944, don't recall.

first operational sortie was a sweep over the bay of biscay, aircraft HX902/O AND HX904/E, 24th Oct 1943

[Tilt]

I've never read of a Mk XVI being escorted by another Mosquito.

Have you read of any Mk XVI's being attacked (repeatedly and always) by ME163's? When over their target?

I think the Mk30 would make a great escort for the Mk XVI.............

[bozon]

In the order of "usefulness" for the arenas:

1. Mk. XXX - will allow mosquito fighters to go over 20k with dignity. Not so bad down to 12k or so, below that, the VI will be better. Its radar will be useless unfortunately. Give us a day version without the flame dampers and it will rock. Will have a problem with dives at high alts if it falls apart at 480 mph like our VI does.

2. Mk. XVIII - the 57mm Molins version. It was intended for attacking ships and U-boats, but in AH it will be used against GVs. We got the 410 and Ju87 flying cannons, this will be the allied answer. Performance will be less than stellar due to the extra weight, but still beats 410 and Ju87 by a large margin. Hopefully it will be able to take more damage than our VI.

3. Mk. II - Our VI will do almost everything better, but this allows earlier dates in scenarios. Another possible advantage is that NF-II's often carried an enlarged ammo load for their cannons when doing intruder operations. I recall something like 220 rpg for the 20mm, but I'll have to check. No bombs or rockets though.

[Karnak]

The Mk 30 uses the same wing and tail as the Mk XVI, which does not shed parts in AH.  Of course, the Mk VI also used the same wing and tail as the stronger wing was introduced with the Mk VI.  I have no explanation for the difference in behavior between the MK VI and Mk XVI in regards to shedding control surfaces in AH.

The Mk II and Mk IV should have the same tail, but the wing would be the weaker original wing with a less robust spar.

Bozon,

The Mk XVIII had 1000lbs of additional armor for the cockpit and engines.  The Mossie in AH is already pretty tough.