High Speed vs. Tight Turns

[Tank-Ace]

And I was explaining to him that we were discussing the same thing. We just had a bit of miscomunication (very easy on the internet)


You jump in, saying the Ki-84 isn't good at a zoom climb (which is rather irrelvent, since its still good in the verticle, which was one of the main points of my scenario).

I respond saying its not that relevent if the Ki-84 is good at zoom climbs, because its still good in the verticle.

And now we're here.

[coombz]

I don't play Aces High but I just thought I'd come and interject my pointless and irrellevant opinion into your discussion and then argue about it

[mthrockmor]

At high speeds (350 TAS+) the 190A-5 and D-9 are not to be underestimated in the turn.

At the bottom of the pile at high speeds is the A6Mx.  It can't take the stress, but get it below 300 TAS and it can turn on a dime. 

Nothing like getting a Zero above you, entice them into a high speed dive and then reverse them. You then have moments to make something happen. They begin pulling on the stick and turn like a city bus. As their speed decelerates you know they are going to gain turning ability then bam...they suddenly turn on a dime once they decelerate below the sweet spot. After that it's a bit like chasing a falling leaf.

Boo

[nrshida]

You jump in,

Yes it's a forum I thought that was the idea.

I respond saying its not that relevent if the Ki-84 is good at zoom climbs, because its still good in the verticle.

But in a different way to a zoom climb. Even if it is irrelevant you stated it incorrectly. If you are going to discuss technical issues it's important to get the details right.

Also it's vertical. A verticle is something different.

[Tank-Ace]

Frankly, I don't really care if my spelling is less than perfect, so long as I get my point across. If I give grammar and spelling fascists like coombz a heart attack... well, so much the better.


And I was attempting to simplify it as much as possible, hence the exaggerated speed difference of 150mph.

I don't play Aces High but I just thought I'd come and interject my pointless and irrelevant opinion into your discussion and then argue about it

Well, glad that you recognize that your opinion is both pointless and irrelevant, especially since I was discussing things with Debrody before nrshida even posted in this thread.

Oh, also, whether or not I play Aces High is entirely irrelevant, since I still know what I'm talking about.



*EDIT* Coombz, maybe you wanna keep your nose out of a serious discussion. Your role in AH seems to be as a professional arse.

Looking at your post history, there doesn't seem to be a single serious post about the game in the first three pages of your "recent posts" page. Certianlly none where you're trying to offer what you know in a way thats relevent to the OP.

Unlike you, I actually attempt to contribute constructively, and offer what I know when its asked. So, please kindly take your sarcasm and negativity somewhere it's wanted.

[coombz]

Frankly, I don't really care if my spelling is less than perfect, so long as I get my point across.

I know it's difficult for you to grasp, but if you want to get your point across then you should probably try to use the correct words, as nrshida pointed out verticle means something completely different

And actually, if you DID know what you were talking about, you would be right and whether you play AH or not would be irrelevant. But actually, you just like banging on the keyboard pretending to be knowledgeable. You're like bustr but with a smaller vocabulary (but with equally terrible spelling and grammar).

I suppose you have an excuse for that, being a barely educated child, whereas bustr is a grown man and doesn't get off so easily

[bozon]

As their speed decelerates you know they are going to gain turning ability then bam...they suddenly turn on a dime once they decelerate below the sweet spot. After that it's a bit like chasing a falling leaf.

Boo

Hehe, I liked that falling leaf metaphor 

[Tank-Ace]

I know it's difficult for you to grasp, but if you want to get your point across then you should probably try to use the correct words, as nrshida pointed out verticle means something completely different

And actually, if you DID know what you were talking about, you would be right and whether you play AH or not would be irrelevant. But actually, you just like banging on the keyboard pretending to be knowledgeable. You're like bustr but with a smaller vocabulary (but with equally terrible spelling and grammar).

I suppose you have an excuse for that, being a barely educated child, whereas bustr is a grown man and doesn't get off so easily

The definition of verticle does not make sense in the context in which I used the word. Given that the definition of vertical does make sense in that context, and the spelling is highly similar, people will be able to understand.

This is evidenced by the fact that nobody has been unable to follow the argument, and nobody has questioned why I used a word in a way that is nonsensical.

Spelling and grammatical errors aside, the content of my posts are most often accurate. You may not like them, but they are provably true. And you probably don't like that very much, either.


You're quite clearly a dedicated arse. Your posts seem to primarily be little more than derogatory remarks, often implying a lower than average intelligence, to your selected target. After looking through your post history, I gave up around page 10 looking for a post that is serious, constructive, and positive. Or even a post that is both positive and either serious or constructive.

Theres also an unusually (but, sadly, not surprisingly) high number of "you stupid American" posts in your history as well.

You seem to primarily frequent the O'Club, where you procede to give forth with your unflattering, sarcastic, and generally negative view of specific people, video games, America, the general population, various institutions, any level of faith in Government, economics, human decency, and America.

In short, you seem to be a rather unhappy, likely bitter, man, with a bleak and depressing view of the world, save for jolly 'ole England, and former colonies sans the U.S.A, and (just taking a shot in the dark here), anything that's culturally relevent after you graduated college, if not earlier.

[coombz]

wow you read through 10 pages of O'Club  troll posts?    and wrote  12 angsty paragraphs on this thread for me..gg

 I should put you on the angry nerd list with madhogg

btw I highly doubt you read anything written by me glorifying  'jolly old england', that's just something you've made up in your own head (much like your delusions of intelligent contribution to this topic)

oh and additionally I never went to 'college' or university, I got to where I am today through sheer hard work and natural brilliance

[gripen]

Hello,

Which plane have you found to turn the tightest at high speed below 15k?

High speed = say 400 mph+

My guesses are possibly P-51 or F4Us.

Some food for thought (have been posted earlier as well):

F4U


P-51D

[Debrody]

Youre pwned, coombzy, give it up man...   

[coombz]

yes I am very bitter and depressed     woe is me life is so hard etc

E-detective tank ace found the truth about me while searching through my post history in a  rage after I made fun of him

keep up the good work and excellent posts sir

[Tank-Ace]

wow you read through 10 pages of O'Club  troll posts?    and wrote  12 angsty paragraphs on this thread for me..gg

Yes, I did read up on your rather poor record. Unlike some, I actually do some checking before casually making false acusations.

And at least you've admited to being a troll. Its not much, but at least it shows you aren't completely hopeless.

I should put you on the angry nerd list with madhogg

Go for it, you're still a troll, and you're still an arse.

btw I highly doubt you read anything written by me glorifying  'jolly old england', that's just something you've made up in your own head (much like your delusions of intelligent contribution to this topic)

You're from (or are at least in) New Zealand, your profile prominently displays part of the union jack. You've commented repeatedly on how European schools are (in your own view) superior to those of American schools.

Given that England didn't really have a colony in Europe, it would be safe to assume you've at least spent time in the country. I've also never seen you post negative comments toward the country. Nor towards Australia, New Zealand, or Canada for that matter.

Its not really that big of a streach to make that guess.

oh and additionally I never went to 'college' or university, I got to where I am today through sheer hard work and natural brilliance

For all your bluster about your good grammar and spelling, you actually display very little intellegence, certianly not enough to make you 'brilliant'. If you actually had anything intellegent to say, you wouldn't constantly resort to ad hominem attacks, and would contribute to the community in some meaningfull way.

Hell, I may not be actively playing right now, but I'm still a more supportive and contributing member of the community than you are.

[nrshida]

For all your bluster about your good grammar and spelling, you actually display very little intellegence,

Intelligent enough it seems to consistently manipulate those members of this community whose ego surpasses their insight.

[coombz]

your profile prominently displays part of the union jack.

It's my squad's avatar/logo thingy *shrug*

You've commented repeatedly on how European schools are (in your own view) superior to those of American schools.

Really? I don't remember ever making such a post. Maybe in an offhand manner while laughing at you for being worse at writing the English language than 90% of this board's European posters...I think I said something like "If you were my kid I'd be ashamed of you" or something of the sort. Is that it? (Are your parents ashamed of you?)

I really don't know anything about European schools vs American schools, so I call BS. If I've done it 'repeatedly' as you claim, you should be able to provide at least one link or quote to prove me wrong  I'll be waiting...

I've also never seen you post negative comments toward the country.

I don't think you did your homework well enough then, I've posted plenty of negative things about the UK. If I thought it was perfect I'd probably still be there.

However, if I were to humour you in this line of reasoning, I've also never posted any negative comments about Ethiopia...does that mean that I think Ethiopia is better than America?

you wouldn't constantly resort to ad hominem attacks

It would be an ad hominem attack if I called you a donkey raping **** eater

It is not an ad hominem attack for me to refer to you as a badly educated child

I like to think that I avoid ad hominem posts (or strawman arguments) in my posts in the O'Club and elsewhere - generally they aren't required because people do such a good job of making themselves look stupid that I just have to point it out, rather than go on a name calling spree.

But if you have some links to posts I've made where I am randomly name calling with nothing to back it up, then by all means link them.

Finally I'd just like to note that my comment...

"I don't play Aces High but I just thought I'd come and interject my pointless and irrelevant opinion into your discussion and then argue about it"

...obviously struck a nerve with you, seeing as this thread is now completely off topic because of you getting upset about it and wanting to 'get back' at me

If I'm such an obvious troll and an 'arse' (not to mention bitter and depressed and whatever else it was), then it would be much more sensible just to ignore me when I make fun of you  You haven't learned that lesson yet after all this time...although I noticed that you DID make a big effort with your spelling and grammar starting a month or two back (or at least just started using spellcheck), despite saying that you don't care about such things.