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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #30 on: June 18, 2013, 08:57:08 AM »
Like it or not it is all about perception.  

Attitudes about tattoos are changing here in the US, but I really don't think they are changing that quick in the Corporate World.  Sure there are folks with high profile positions and pay that have long hair and tattoos, but what percentage are they?  I am willing to bet it is not very high.  Times may change, but the bottom line is if you are going for a job in a cooperation and you have long hair and/or exposed tattoo(s), you are taking a chance.

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Yep and more importantly once you _have_ the high paying job at the corporate top, you may afford to grow a long hair and/or take a tattoo. But if you want to _get_ there, covering yourself in tattoos is probably not your best game plan.
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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2013, 09:43:40 AM »
Well, the looking down on tattoo's is actually a sign of intelligence in a manner (not fully though).

You will find those who have a very high IQ don't like to be branded or limited by someone else's doings or standards (its why they go beyond them).

In a sense, tattoo's are someone else marking their territory on you, even if it not exactly be the tattoo painter themself; the symbolism can't be denied.




I designed both my tattoos by hand myself though, what does that mean?
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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #32 on: June 18, 2013, 11:23:13 AM »
If I was trying to portray a professional image to clients that were going to trust me with significant assets or important business stuff, I would not send out people with visible tattoos to do client interaction.

If I was in the business of training combat skills, I would search out people with specific backgrounds that often include very specific tattoos.  These would probably end up my most trusted employees/instructors. 

Different standards of dress and appearance apply based on the job requirements.  I know that I certainly would not do financial business with someone wearing tattoos that are gang or prison related, or using symbols associated with various hate groups.  They might be the nicest person in the world but I would not be able to trust them and would not risk the future of my family on that particular gamble.  For me personally it is about managing risk.  For a company managing their image, it's the same thing.  Why should they risk their image and the loss of a client by presenting an image that doesn't exude "trust me I'm good at this"?  Sorry, but in "that world", a full sleeve tattoo doesn't give an immediate impression of business competence.  There would have to be additional proof there somewhere, and establishing competence in the face of a bad first impression is an uphill battle.

A nice kid and his girlfriend were eating dinner next to us, and I noticed he had some gang/prison/hate group tats on his hands and neck.  It was a small place so I couldn't help hearing his conversation, and he sounded like a really nice guy.  But I sure wouldn't let him anywhere near my wife and kids.  Maybe he's reformed, maybe he got the tats to survive in prison as he paid for a mistake, but just maybe he's a psychopath who would assault me or my wife because we are a "mixed race" couple.  He will never get a chance to prove anything to me, and I stayed between him and my wife until we left.  The tats were the only thing that made me think that way.  I'm normally very tolerant (grew up in San Diego, so yea, tolerance) but a potential threat is a threat, period.

Like the dental assistant who had a bumper sticker of "the shocker" on his car.  Does anyone really think I would be comfortable letting a guy who proudly displays a sex act on his car put his hands in my mouth, or in the mouth of my wife/kids, possibly under sedation?  That guy won't EVER be near my wife/kids and I'll refuse treatment if he's the guy assigned to me during my next dental checkup.  He probably has the same design tattooed somewhere because its that important to him.  Fine, he gets an official workplace harassment complaint and I don't trust him to do his primary job with me or my family.

So, yea...  Tattoos DO matter.  Some more than others, and more to some people than others.  If that is the image you want to present to the world and you're fine with the consequences, then go ahead get all the tats you want.  Just don't complain when the consequences happen.
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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #33 on: June 18, 2013, 12:43:15 PM »
Yep and more importantly once you _have_ the high paying job at the corporate top, you may afford to grow a long hair and/or take a tattoo. But if you want to _get_ there, covering yourself in tattoos is probably not your best game plan.

dont you have a tattoo of windows 8 on your neck?



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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2013, 01:33:23 PM »

I have to agree with MrRiplEy on this one for visible tattoos.   Most corporate environments require tattoos to be covered at all times.  A lot of places will not hire people with visible tattoos.
You dress the way you want for the job you want to do.  Military tattoos are the only exception I have ever seen with upper management. 
Hair,  piercings, tattoos all matter.  There are others that are as good as you with their jobs and are willing to dress the part.

The only leeway I see for cooperate jobs is IT.  We have some weird examples of what is considered normal in my department.
Every other Dept management and client facing members are clean cut.

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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2013, 02:20:07 PM »
dont you have a tattoo of windows 8 on your neck?



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In my line of business that would be considered a joke if I had. But I have to say no to that one.

+1 for yet another warrantless personal attack. Go to a hate management course dude.
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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #36 on: June 18, 2013, 02:20:21 PM »
Sadly I agree.  I have nothing against tattoos.  But in my experience if you have them and they are visible you can likely kiss a white collar job goodbye.  

That being said, I somehow doubt that many who have extensive tattoos have any great interest in working for a bank or some such.  I know that's a generalization, but....
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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #37 on: June 18, 2013, 02:31:24 PM »
I thought your tattoo was a script of

"Sorry. This person moved or deleted this image."

Found that extremely funny.
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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2013, 04:00:22 PM »
I have turned thousands of dollars away due to people wanting to get visible tatts.....young people, should not be getting their necks.... hands and face done...plain and simple....ya tatts are popular but you will never get anywhere in life if you go and cover your self in tattoos....do some make it "big" with tatts...sure.....but it is very rare...

like some are saying the corporate world is still very biased against tatts....

people are still very biased against tatts.....

MrRiply Is dead on they are very much associated with the criminal world....the "underclass" of people....


to me they are living art....and not for everyone.

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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #39 on: June 18, 2013, 05:17:43 PM »
OK I am NOT being a smartarse!!!

However I own my business sir.  :salute

Previously I did not have a tattoo and was a Lt. for a Fire Department after 8 years in Fire Rescue I went into business for myself. What started as a hobby turned into my Retirement Plan  :devil





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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2013, 05:23:12 PM »
OK I am NOT being a smartarse!!!

However I own my business sir.  :salute

Previously I did not have a tattoo and was a Lt. for a Fire Department after 8 years in Fire Rescue I went into business for myself. What started as a hobby turned into my Retirement Plan  :devil




thats awesome...truly is...but it don't happen to everybody and I bet it has more to do with who you are and not have anything to do with tattoos.... :D

besides you don't look 18-19 20 years old. :neener:


you actually remind me of that guy from "lost" he was just in a movie that he did awesome in was a badguy in the movie.......cant remember his name :headscratch:


Matthew Fox

he was in the new movie "Alex Cross"   you definitely look like him in that movie  :aok

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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2013, 05:23:55 PM »
the best for me is when i goto the local starbucks and look like shyt.... the next day see the same hot girl but this time im in a suit

the double take they do is priceless!

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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2013, 05:24:49 PM »

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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2013, 05:25:36 PM »
imma get in trouble for those pics i just know it..... see u guys in 2 weeks  :salute


edit for stooopidity:

and NOTHING BUT 3pc SUITS French Cuff Shirst AND a POCKETWATCH (like a true pimp)!!!!!
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Re: Deadstik's first tattoo
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2013, 05:42:16 PM »
1 Button!  :O That's no suit  :old:
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