Author Topic: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity  (Read 1633 times)

Offline jarbo

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Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« on: November 04, 2012, 02:07:30 AM »
I am absolutely sure, that all sides experience this issue.  Get close to winning a map.  1/2 your country is AFK, so you eat an ENY penalty for inactivity.  I really think a timer that boots a player for no activity would HELP gameplay issues.   Properly implemented, to account for GVers in a tank looking around,  this could benefit the game, anyone disagree?

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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2012, 02:21:15 AM »
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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2012, 02:40:53 AM »
I am absolutely sure, that all sides experience this issue.  Get close to winning a map.  1/2 your country is AFK, so you eat an ENY penalty for inactivity. 


It would boot the 'inactive' players on all sides, so chances are good that you still end up with the same ENY. Right now there are 30 of 49 Bish 'inflight' (61%), but also only 9 out of 18 Knights (50%).
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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2012, 03:43:52 AM »
Recommend moving this post to the wish list.  This is a really good idea!!!

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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2012, 06:33:24 AM »
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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2012, 09:13:19 AM »
Awww, I'm sorry you couldn't horde with p51's and had to choose something else...waaaa :cry

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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2012, 10:12:49 AM »
Sweet.....let's boot the guy who drove a m3 two sectors and is waiting for the white flag.

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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2012, 10:42:01 AM »
Simple pop up box "Warning: you are about to be booted for inactivity".

Problem solved.

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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2012, 11:37:05 AM »
To address your M3 concern, it could be designed so "any" activity would reset the timer. Maybe 2-hrs for in flight, 1 hr for in tower.

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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2012, 11:43:20 AM »
It is too easy to bypass auto boot settings. Hitech said so himself and said there will never be an auto-boot feature.

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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2012, 12:31:17 PM »
Does eny not already account for inactive players??

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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2012, 01:13:40 PM »
My understanding of the current ENY formula is:

static void   _CalculateBalance(arnaCOUNTRY_BALANCE * Balance)
{
const arnaSETTINGS * Settings;
double BalanceGain;
double Least;
int Country;
   Settings = arnaservGetSettings();
   if(Balance->TotalPlayerCnt > 0 )
   {
      if(Settings->MinBalanceTotal != 0)
      {
         BalanceGain = (double)Balance->TotalPlayerCnt / (double)Settings->MinBalanceTotal;
      }
      else
      {
         BalanceGain = 1;
      }
      if(BalanceGain > 1)
      {
         BalanceGain = 1;
      }

      Least = 2.0;
      for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
      {

         Balance->CountryPer[Country] = (double)Balance->PlayerCnt[Country] / (double)Balance->TotalPlayerCnt;
         if(Balance->CountryPer[Country] < Least)
         {
            Least = Balance->CountryPer[Country];
         }

      }

      if(Least != 0)
      {
         for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
         {

            Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] =
               (Balance->CountryPer[Country] - (Least + Settings->BaseCountryPer)) * Settings->CountryBalanceScale * BalanceGain * 100;
            if(Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] < 0)
            {
               Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = 0;
            }
            if(Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] > Settings->MinEnyValue)
            {
               Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = Settings->MinEnyValue;
            }
         }
      }
   }
   else
   {
      for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
      {
         Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = 0;
      }
   }

   if(Balance->TotalPlayerCnt < 6)
   {
      for(Country=0;Country<pcMAX_COUNTRY;++Country)
      {
         Balance->MinEnyValue[Country] = 0;
      }
   }

}

It is based on total player count, not in flight.

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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2012, 01:25:13 PM »
Well then, the sensible thing to do would be to ask for inactive players to be taken into consideration regards ENY rather than booting people.  :old:

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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2012, 01:33:54 PM »
Sweet.....let's boot the guy who drove a m3 two sectors and is waiting for the white flag.

I agree with icepac, boot the m3 drivers  :devil
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Re: Gotta make an "Auto Boot" for inactivity
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2012, 01:49:06 PM »
The problem with modifying inflight is that it could cause wild ENY swings as missions launch.

I actually decided to graph what the eny formula looks like.  Using current arena settings, there are 4 variables (3 cnts, and ENY), so I had to make an assumption about the "middle" country count in each graph.  

I am not trying to turn this in to an ENY rightness/wrongness rant.  Just want to share what I see.









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