Aircraft ENY

[Pand]

I would like to see each plane's ENY be updated based off the loadout that is selected, not based off the potential loadout it could carry.

I've seen others ask for perks on using specific ordnance loadouts---- this would in a way limit the perks received when utilizing those loadouts.

[guncrasher]

dude I weight more than the average pilot if my eny goes up because of it then it's discrimination.


semp

[Pand]

What you choose to put in your mouth, or on your plane, is entirely up to you

[waystin2]

Plane ENY and OBJ have been based on usage and their effect in the arena with little consideration to it's potential.  So what you are asking is more or less already incorporated into the decision.  Take for instance the recent Pony Scourge thread.  Most likely if it's usage and effect in the arena continues at this pace, the Pony Delta will see an adjustment in it's ENY and OBJ in the future.

[Rob52240]

Plane ENY and OBJ have been based on usage and their effect in the arena with little consideration to it's potential.  So what you are asking is more or less already incorporated into the decision.  Take for instance the recent Pony Scourge thread.  Most likely if it's usage and effect in the arena continues at this pace, the Pony Delta will see an adjustment in it's ENY and OBJ in the future.

How can a pony drop below a 5?

[Lusche]

How can a pony drop below a 5?

By adjustment by HTC? After all it would not be the first plane with ENY less than 5 (not that I'm advocating it)

[Pand]

Plane ENY and OBJ have been based on usage and their effect in the arena with little consideration to it's potential.  So what you are asking is more or less already incorporated into the decision.  Take for instance the recent Pony Scourge thread.  Most likely if it's usage and effect in the arena continues at this pace, the Pony Delta will see an adjustment in it's ENY and OBJ in the future.

No that is not what I'm asking for.  

Let me explain in an example:
 - Someone flying a P-51D fully loaded with bombs and rockets and a 6x50 gun package should have a lower number ENY (5 or 6 or whatever it is today)
compared to
 - Someone flying a P-51D with no ordnance and a 4x50 gun package should have a higher number ENY (maybe 15-20?)  

I'm just making up a number here, lets not start fighting about what the ENY should or shouldn't be... Lets stay focused on my wish that they should be different based off of the loadout the specific aircraft is carrying.

[waystin2]

No arguments here Pand.  I get your drift.  May I ask why though?  What's your intended result?

[guncrasher]

No that is not what I'm asking for.  

Let me explain in an example:
 - Someone flying a P-51D fully loaded with bombs and rockets and a 6x50 gun package should have a lower number ENY (5 or 6 or whatever it is today)
compared to
 - Someone flying a P-51D with no ordnance and a 4x50 gun package should have a higher number ENY (maybe 15-20?)  

I'm just making up a number here, lets not start fighting about what the ENY should or shouldn't be... Lets stay focused on my wish that they should be different based off of the loadout the specific aircraft is carrying.

isnt that a ponyb?  but seriously if it is because of the amount of bullets.  then shouldnt the p47 with 3400 bullets have an eny of 0?  what about the 190's some have 800 shells.  or the c205.

most people who fly the pony's or 190's or most planes are not experts.  most of us are mediocre players at best.  I remember a few years ago when the beatching was about spit16's.  then before that it was la7's.  think is there's is always one plane that people think should have a higher eny just because they get killed by it a lot.  if that is the case then ban the b17's as 999 will nail anybody here.


semp

[Pand]

isnt that a ponyb?  but seriously if it is because of the amount of bullets.  then shouldnt the p47 with 3400 bullets have an eny of 0?  what about the 190's some have 800 shells.  or the c205.

most people who fly the pony's or 190's or most planes are not experts.  most of us are mediocre players at best.  I remember a few years ago when the beatching was about spit16's.  then before that it was la7's.  think is there's is always one plane that people think should have a higher eny just because they get killed by it a lot.  if that is the case then ban the b17's as 999 will nail anybody here.


semp

Oh no, drastic differences between the P-51D and P-51B, even with the same gun package.   

I'm just looking for valid ENY vs what the aircraft is actually carrying, not what it is 'capable' of carrying.

[guncrasher]

Oh no, drastic differences between the P-51D and P-51B, even with the same gun package.   

I'm just looking for valid ENY vs what the aircraft is actually carrying, not what it is 'capable' of carrying.

oh I see so the p47-d with 3 1000lb bombs and 10 rockets plust 3400 rounds should have an eny of 5.  but if it only has the 6 mg with about 1600 rounds then it should have an eny of 30?
will that be fair?  i mean the la7 with the 3 cannons should have a lower than 2.  heck make the ju87 with the 1800kg bomb have an eny of 25 and if it carries less then up to 40.

semp

[bangsbox]

oh I see so the p47-d with 3 1000lb bombs and 10 rockets plust 3400 rounds should have an eny of 5.  but if it only has the 6 mg with about 1600 rounds then it should have an eny of 30?
will that be fair?  i mean the la7 with the 3 cannons should have a lower than 2.  heck make the ju87 with the 1800kg bomb have an eny of 25 and if it carries less then up to 40.

semp

these planes take much longer to fly places with heavy ords and are easy pickings. why perk ords again??? its been this way for a decade. and one must not break tradition lol

[RTHolmes]

May I ask why though?  What's your intended result?

... P-51D ENY 15-20 ...

 

[save]

190a8 has 680* 20mm and lots of 13mm ....

isnt that a ponyb?  but seriously if it is because of the amount of bullets.  then shouldnt the p47 with 3400 bullets have an eny of 0?  what about the 190's some have 800 shells.  or the c205.

most people who fly the pony's or 190's or most planes are not experts.  most of us are mediocre players at best.  I remember a few years ago when the beatching was about spit16's.  then before that it was la7's.  think is there's is always one plane that people think should have a higher eny just because they get killed by it a lot.  if that is the case then ban the b17's as 999 will nail anybody here.


semp

[SmokinLoon]

An aircraft's ENY is based on whatever HTC's magic 8 ball tells them the once in a blue moon they review ENY values.

As it appears, HTC has set ENY values based on the total sum of an aircraft's ability.  As such the P51D and Spitfire 16 both should get less then 5 when compared to other fighters, imo.