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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2012, 01:08:46 PM »
You know those "End of World" movies where it's a free for all in a city or town? Everyone out for themselves?
Psychologists say it's just the opposite in real life.....humanity tends to come together and support each other. So that question about "Are children born inherently evil and taught goodness or born inherently good and taught evil" is irrevelent. We have a natural instinct to help each other, help unknown souls, in times of trouble.
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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2012, 01:50:54 PM »
We see it happen all the time down here with the hurricanes and tornadoes that we get throughout the south. Also I have never seen utility trucks from up in the Northeast coming down to help us out when we have major storms that completely destroy towns and parts of the coast. I could be wrong in my last statement but I have been out working in the aftermath of every major storm in the last 10 years through out the southeastern US and have only seen guys like LD who want to do it for the right reasons.

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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2012, 10:18:26 PM »
After Katrina, 52 crews from our area (long Island) went down to Mississippi.. They were gone for over three weeks.

We came through Sandy without any serious issues. Some slats blew off our fence, and a shingle came adrift, that was quickly nailed back on. Never lost power. Many family and friends did lose power, and some had their home flooded. We opened out home up to them for hot showers and meals. Our spare bedroom was usually occupied through Tuesday.

Yesterday, the nor'easter hit. The weather guessers predicted rain. We got 8" of wet, heavy snow instead. at 1:58 AM, a tree lost a big limb and brought down a power line. We lost power. I was outside this morning clearing the snow from the driveway when two bucket trucks rolled by. They were from a local private company. They found the problem and we had power on by 10:45 AM. Some teenagers spent the afternoon after school shoveling out driveways of seniors, and refused payment for their effort.

My brother is President of his volunteer fire department. They set up their banquet room above the firehouse with cots. They have a big kitchen, and the volunteers have been cooking breakfast, lunch and dinner for line crews and residents. Crews can stop by for a hot shower, hot meal and a nap. Two crews from Nova Scotia have set up there as the hotels are filled. Anyone without power can stop by for a hot meal. About 100 town residents have been eating and showering there. The local laundry-mat is letting anyone without electricity wash and dry their clothes for free. A local power equipment shop is repairing generators at no charge. Two have been beyond repair, and the owner loaned the homeowners a rebuilt unit. We, along with dozens of others have donated cash and groceries to the fire dept., to help them feed the crews and residents. Tonight, several of us made a run to the nearest BJs Club with power and picked up enough milk, coffee, eggs, sausage, bacon and pancake mix to carry them through the next two day's breakfasts. The fridges were full, so we stored the perishables outside in a storage shed. It will be more than cold enough for everything to keep. The firemen have been collecting coats, blankets, and food for several days. Tomorrow, they will caravan a group of SUVs and vans to the Breezy Point Volunteer Fire Dept. You may have heard that over 100 homes burned to the ground in Breezy Point during the hurricane. Some of those families are being housed at their fire department. They've lost everything, including their clothing. This will help alleviate their discomfort a little. A local business owner donated 20 new winter coats in child sizes. The sense of community is strong here. As individuals we cannot do very much to offset the damage and misery. However, as a community, we can make a measurable difference. My brothers and I will be at the firehouse bright and early Sunday morning to help cook breakfast. Everyone's efforts are adding up. The number of folks coming by the firehouse to eat or shower has been cut more than in half. Things are improving, but there's still 1,100 families in or around the town without power. The schools reopened today, which means the kids whose homes are cold and dark can spend the day in warmth and have a hot meal.

There's much on the local news about how bad things are. Nonetheless, there's a lot of good happening too.... People caring for their neighbors.

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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2012, 10:23:45 PM »
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Thanks, LD!!

 hey....what did you do to be able to mount your winch on the front? mine's got a piece of plastic between the front bumper, and the rad. grille.
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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2012, 11:10:43 PM »
Well I am officially off the Fema Loads.. Here is a slight count of what I did..

7 Loads of wire from York, Pa .. 3 Went to Long Island 2 went to staging area west of Jersey Shore one went to Staten Island

3 Loads of groceries to food banks .. 1 each to above

1 load of blankets going to 3 different shelters, 1 on Staten island, 1 on Long island and one in Jersey.

4 loads of water donated by a local food ware house.. (hehehe I weighed 94560 when I left there, Jersey scale house freaked when I got on scale..)

All in all I think I saw Newark Airport, Staten Island, Long Island, and Eastern Jersey more than I wanted to. No offense if you live there.

Funny story

I was making a delivery on Staten Island and my escort, aka, NYPD was guiding me one of the main roads and I needed to make a hard right onto a side street and when I noticed I was going to wipe out someones mail box i stopped. The officer came back and asked me why I had stopped, I showed him and he said.. "That load of water is more precious than a mailbox right now, take it down." So I ran over someones mail box and made it into modern art. I saw him push a car out of my way with his SUV and not even think twice.

A local firefighter came up and asked me how much diesel I had .. knowing i would be able to make it back to where I could get fuel, I donated 50 gallons to him so he could keep a generator running for a local shelter. I informed my work what I did so as I would not get in trouble and their response was ... Why not more??

To me the guys and gals that deserve the thanks are the men and women that were volunteering and helping out where they could, no matter how long they were up.

@ TC here are a couple of articles on what you were talking about..

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=118415

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/11/08/marines-help-in-staten-island-hurricane-clean-up.html?comp=700001075741&rank=2

Those men and women deserve a hearty  :salute and if I saw one today at a bar, restaurant, movie theater their money would be NO GOOD..

So as I get ready for a three day weekend I  :salute all who helped in any way, and  :pray all that survived will be OK.

Well i am signing off for awihile.. the bed looks so comfy..

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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2012, 09:14:19 AM »
hey....what did you do to be able to mount your winch on the front? mine's got a piece of plastic between the front bumper, and the rad. grille.

The one covering the sway bar with the Jeep logo on it?

I ditched it along with the "flotation devices" or bumper end caps as some call them.

I got one of these:  http://www.harborfreight.com/universal-channel-winch-mount-90476.html

I had to modify it a bit so the holes lined up with the ones that attach the bumper to the frame (which I used to hold the plate on) and notched out for the sway bar, but I have a milling machine, so it wasn't too tough.  I DID, however, have to notch the front bumper a bit to make clearance for the heads of the bolts that attach the winch to the plate but the bolt pattern on the winch lined up with the plate.

It is a Smittybuilt XRC-8.  I think I paid $300 including shipping 3 or 4 years ago and it came with the fairlead.  

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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2012, 09:22:10 AM »
I hope the people who made millions off the Jersey Shore show give some money to help rebuild it. How did Atlantic City do through the storms?
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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2012, 04:10:10 PM »
Well I am officially off the Fema Loads.. Here is a slight count of what I did..

7 Loads of wire from York, Pa .. 3 Went to Long Island 2 went to staging area west of Jersey Shore one went to Staten Island

3 Loads of groceries to food banks .. 1 each to above

1 load of blankets going to 3 different shelters, 1 on Staten island, 1 on Long island and one in Jersey.

4 loads of water donated by a local food ware house.. (hehehe I weighed 94560 when I left there, Jersey scale house freaked when I got on scale..)

All in all I think I saw Newark Airport, Staten Island, Long Island, and Eastern Jersey more than I wanted to. No offense if you live there.

Funny story

I was making a delivery on Staten Island and my escort, aka, NYPD was guiding me one of the main roads and I needed to make a hard right onto a side street and when I noticed I was going to wipe out someones mail box i stopped. The officer came back and asked me why I had stopped, I showed him and he said.. "That load of water is more precious than a mailbox right now, take it down." So I ran over someones mail box and made it into modern art. I saw him push a car out of my way with his SUV and not even think twice.

A local firefighter came up and asked me how much diesel I had .. knowing i would be able to make it back to where I could get fuel, I donated 50 gallons to him so he could keep a generator running for a local shelter. I informed my work what I did so as I would not get in trouble and their response was ... Why not more??

To me the guys and gals that deserve the thanks are the men and women that were volunteering and helping out where they could, no matter how long they were up.

@ TC here are a couple of articles on what you were talking about..

http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=118415

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/11/08/marines-help-in-staten-island-hurricane-clean-up.html?comp=700001075741&rank=2

Those men and women deserve a hearty  :salute and if I saw one today at a bar, restaurant, movie theater their money would be NO GOOD..

So as I get ready for a three day weekend I  :salute all who helped in any way, and  :pray all that survived will be OK.

Well i am signing off for awihile.. the bed looks so comfy..

LawnDart





Hah, good stories and good work LawnDart, thanks for your contribution.  What's the usual weight limits in NJ?  They make you unload any of it or did they just turn away?  :D
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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2012, 04:26:09 PM »
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Also I have never seen utility trucks from up in the Northeast

But they have been there Reschke.

Ive worked with crews from PA, OH, Va, NH, NJ......on and on.

On Katrina and Rita I worked with crews out of OH, Va, and PA on a daily basis.

Here in the Carolinas we have seen crews from up north on several occasions and they were GREATLY appreciated.

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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2012, 04:55:29 PM »
Hah, good stories and good work LawnDart, thanks for your contribution.  What's the usual weight limits in NJ?  They make you unload any of it or did they just turn away?  :D

Any state the legal load limit is 80,000 pounds unles you have a permit, or doing FEMA loads. Trailers were dropped and or unloaded at sight by volunteers, or in the case of the wire, by the linemen needing it.

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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2012, 10:30:34 AM »
I hope the people who made millions off the Jersey Shore show give some money to help rebuild it. How did Atlantic City do through the storms?

 ATLANTIC city was under water for awhile, and a friend of mine in the guard was down there rescuing people that listened to the mayor, and stayed.
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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2012, 05:48:25 PM »
ATLANTIC city was under water for awhile, and a friend of mine in the guard was down there rescuing people that listened to the mayor, and stayed.
I don't understand the ignorance of some people....You have to hope for the best but plan for the worst when you have mother nature heading your way. Good on the guard getting there and helping people out.
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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2012, 05:56:15 PM »
I don't understand the ignorance of some people....You have to hope for the best but plan for the worst when you have mother nature heading your way. Good on the guard getting there and helping people out.
yep. it just pisses me off a bit, because people were leaving, till the mayor told them they didn't have to. because of his ignorance, friends of mine had to go into harms way to rescue them.

 that said, even though where i'm at didn't get hit too hard, i was ready. had the generator ready with 10 gallons of extra gas, both the truck and jeep tanks full, so i could siphon if necessary, plenty of canned food, and plenty of water. the only thing i lacked was firearms.
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Re: One strong bunch of people... <s> NYC and NJ
« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2012, 05:57:19 PM »
The one covering the sway bar with the Jeep logo on it?

I ditched it along with the "flotation devices" or bumper end caps as some call them.

I got one of these:  http://www.harborfreight.com/universal-channel-winch-mount-90476.html

I had to modify it a bit so the holes lined up with the ones that attach the bumper to the frame (which I used to hold the plate on) and notched out for the sway bar, but I have a milling machine, so it wasn't too tough.  I DID, however, have to notch the front bumper a bit to make clearance for the heads of the bolts that attach the winch to the plate but the bolt pattern on the winch lined up with the plate.

It is a Smittybuilt XRC-8.  I think I paid $300 including shipping 3 or 4 years ago and it came with the fairlead.  

If you need pics close-up, let me know.

 thanks dude!! that thing looks pretty straight forward! and yes, i mean the plastic above the swaybar. i'm gonna order the plate on monday, and have my warn winch mounted before winter hits.
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