Why?

[titanic3]

*Flame suit on*

Why do some people play a *combat* flight sim if all they do is avoid combat?  

Not trying to start a flame war or a troll bait, but I ask that question everytime some one runs away and of course, no answer or "it's their $15". Ok fine, it's their $15, but then why spend it on this game to fly in circles in your ack/bail at first sight/fly 30 minutes to get killed by your own bomb/fly 30 minutes only to turn around the moment a red icon appear?

Just pure curiosity.

[RedBull1]

It does get quite old and annoying, I am starting to get burnt out of it myself as well, when I get this new computer fully up and running Ill probably be taking quite a break from AH and/or playing little. The interest, the fun, the fight etc. are slowly dieing out with each Ram/Run/6v1/etc. 
It also feels to be getting a bit repetitive ... Up, get a few kills, die in to a Multi vs. me situation, or occasionally if I can fend them off and win said Multi vs. me, land some kills. But more often than not it's up, get a few kills, get 4v1'ed, die. It is my poor reversals and/or SA that cause me to die in these situations I guess, but I'd rather go in at 8K in a K4 and turn with 1-3 and occasionally win than to sit at 20K in a hurri, brew, spit16, temp, etc etc etc and just pick a odd kill here or there. It is more fun, even dieing is, but after awhile of this same exact scenerio 4v1, 5v1, 6v1, ack run, etc. .... eh... I dunno, but I think a couple month break or whatever might renew some interest, and add the always fun challenge of knocking some rust off 

[JunkyII]

Best thing to do is to give them your 6 and bait them into the ownage bro

[nrshida]

Why do some people play a *combat* flight sim if all they do is avoid combat?  

Score.

[Stalwart]

Score.

I gotta agree, Score.

[zack1234]

Score

Me and JimmyC chased a 190 down for ages, his mates came in to save him, it went on for ages

And then we saw a Stuka at 3k and left the 190 and proper fetled the Stuka, it was good fun.

Yes Shida is right its score, if you look in the ranks the top ones are the people who run away

I always run away but it never works I have to turn round and get fetled.

Shida likes slip on shoes and pot porri by the way

[Debrody]

Oh boy, sounds like you have fallen into my illness.

[bustr]

80\20 Rules of Aces High Air Combat.

80% Rule 1 - Survival at all costs is it's own reason.
20% Rule 1 - Fighting is it's own reward.

80% Rule 2 - The means of survival justifies the choice and it's abuse.
20% Rule 2 - The means of the fight is the measure of the pilot.

80% Rule 3 - That I survived is it's own reward.
20% Rule 3 - How I died is as important as how I survived.

80% Rule 4 - Dieing is unacceptable.
20% Rule 4 - Unlimited revenge waits in the hanger.

80% Rule 5 - I'm not as good as you so anything I do to you is acceptable to me.
20% Rule 5 - Oh gawd, another HOing, hoarding runtard.

Universal truths about group combat games.

Everyone beleives they are part of the 20%.

The 20% act just as bad as the 80% and justify it publicly as a perogitive of being a 20%.

The 80% act just as bad as the 20% and never publicly justify it driving the 20% nutz.

The 20% are the loudest complainers concerning the correct way to play the game via individual special skills and the 80% lack of.

The 80% couldn't care less and generaly dominate the local venue visa large coalitions requiring no special skills.

Everyone 80% or 20% derives personal intense pleasure in defeating other players. For that moment you in your mind are better than one other person in the universe while the how or why of it are irrelavent. Unfortunatly like getting laid, it's a one time event and you have to continualy hustel someone to get it again.

[Sunka]

Kids, its the point shoot and get a kill at any cost and be sure to not die..cause this is real! gamer mentality,and its getting worse.

[Stalwart]

Everyone 80% or 20% derives personal intense pleasure in defeating other players. For that moment you in your mind are better than one other person in the universe while the how or why of it are irrelavent. Unfortunatly like getting laid, it's a one time event and you have to continualy hustel someone to get it again.

I love it all, but this is my favorite part.

[nrshida]

One thing I like about Aces High is the 'law of the jungle' aspect of it. One thing channel 200 or this BBS proves is that you cannot through campaigning, complaining, whining, crying what-have-you alter the way people play, YOU must adapt and try to find what you are looking for in your own way. Can be difficult.

The question was why do people evade combat and I think it's a combination of score and ego. It is much easier on the ego to break away and extend, run to ack, to friends, call for help, or come back to kill the fellow that got a shot on you through superior skill when he is busy fighting someone else, than it is to accept your limitations and your defeat. After all the score is recorded the same as if you beat the guy in a straight up fight.

We are living in a predominantly narcissistic cultural and this is the subculture / balance which has evolved here.

[nrshida]

Shida likes slip on shoes and pot porri by the way

I told you never to mention that!  

[Latrobe]

Some people think score matters. They want a good score but don't want to put forth any effort to be rightfully rewarded that good score, or even try to improve their skills. What they don't know is that you can fight any number of opponents in any situation and still have a "good score", and as an added benefit you will become a better pilot! I know this very well because I have over 4 times more deaths than sorties landed this tour with barley a 1.0 K/D ratio, and HTC has given me a rank of 25 (17 at one point) 

If you find someone running there is a very fun way to trick them into a fight. Make a slow turn as if you are breaking off the engagement. Count 2-3 seconds and roll back into them. You'll either get a perfect snapshot or be in perfect position to turn onto your 6 about 400 yards or closer. Works just about all the time, and can fool the same guy more than once sometimes. 

[minke]

Not interested in score
Not interested in flying for 20+ minutes to throw it away for 1 kill
Not interested in balls out aggression every sortie
I prefer 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 if it happens
I will engage if e states and numbers are marginally against me
If e state or numbers are heavily against me, I disengage. Though will stay in area.
I live to land kills.
I ask before jumping into someones fight
Give check 6 and tactical info wherever possible

Guess I'm part of this supposed 80%
If you dont like it, pay my sub. I'll then continue to play MY way because no-one tells me how to play.

[titanic3]

Oh boy, sounds like you have fallen into my illness.

So it seems.

Some people think score matters. They want a good score but don't want to put forth any effort to be rightfully rewarded that good score, or even try to improve their skills. What they don't know is that you can fight any number of opponents in any situation and still have a "good score", and as an added benefit you will become a better pilot! I know this very well because I have over 4 times more deaths than sorties landed this tour with barley a 1.0 K/D ratio, and HTC has given me a rank of 25 (17 at one point) 

If you find someone running there is a very fun way to trick them into a fight. Make a slow turn as if you are breaking off the engagement. Count 2-3 seconds and roll back into them. You'll either get a perfect snapshot or be in perfect position to turn onto your 6 about 400 yards or closer. Works just about all the time, and can fool the same guy more than once sometimes. 

I have done that a few times but if you miss the snapshot, they keep on running. I literally saw a guy make one pass at me in a Tempest, dive away from 15K to the deck and into his base to land. Seriously, what the hell is the point of that? And I agree with your point about score. I made a self pledge not to run unless out of ammo, out of fuel or damage beyond fighting condition (half a wing, PW, stuck flaps, anything else and I'll fight), my K/D is poo for it but I still somehow have a sub 20 fighter rank. Meanwhile, I took a look at one of the most timid player I have ever seen, name begins with H, ends in I and is a part of Jokers Jokers, who has zero deaths but has a rank of 190 something. What's the point of that? They don't get the score they want AND they still fly like a girl.

Not interested in score
Not interested in flying for 20+ minutes to throw it away for 1 kill
Not interested in balls out aggression every sortie
I prefer 2v2, 3v3, 4v4 if it happens
I will engage if e states and numbers are marginally against me
If e state or numbers are heavily against me, I disengage. Though will stay in area.
I live to land kills.
I ask before jumping into someones fight
Give check 6 and tactical info wherever possible

Guess I'm part of this supposed 80%
If you dont like it, pay my sub. I'll then continue to play MY way because no-one tells me how to play.

So what about 1v1s? Do you avoid them because you don't have someone helping you out? Why?