Life for AH beyond the Late War Arena?

[Bino]

The LW arena has all the planes enabled, so I can get ready for whatever FSO or Scenario I'm involved with at that moment.

After all, the MA is merely a practice area, right?   

[transatlanticflight]

Thanks for responding:

Traveler --- patience
Wiley --- promise no rps
Bino--- if you like FSO and Scenarios...but also like great MA features like access to a full plane set... you really may like my concept. I also appreciate your sentiment about the MA as practice area...funny....but sad to have so much practice and so few performances...don't you think?

I will spill the beans soon....but really want to get as many people to post unbiased likes and dislikes about the LW before I post the concept and get ripped apart...lol. What we need is evidence to support the creation of something new...and a direction that seems a logical progression from what works...that diminishes the complaints...and is reasonable for the hitech development team and command staff to impliment and maintain. Perhaps with a solid plan and a team of like minded players/command staff a new arena could migrate existing game play to a new level.

Keep it coming. Thanks.

[ink]

the thing of it is, people make the mistake and think AH is a WW2 combat sim, which it is NOT, it is a combat sim using WW2 tools....we DO NOT replay WW2 we have special events for that...the MA is a giant sandbox, for combat, and the only thing wrong with it is........


wait for it



NOTHING


it is the players that ruin it(not that I think it is ruined I for the most part very much enjoy flying the MA), players that think it is a WW2 sim and think that staying alive is more important then the fight, so they fly very timid....it is sad really

just last night I was fighting 2 51's that had NO CLUE how to fight then 3 nme 262's and a 190 joined the fun so did one of my squadie's it lasted so long that I ran out of fuel, I did kill one of the 262's, but it was a very sad display of "combat" on their part.....I blame the fact that they were so worried about "dieing" that they flew extremely timid.

[Traveler]

Thanks for responding:

Traveler --- patience

I've lost interest.

[Babalonian]

Not to over-simplify, but particularly in MMOs (Massive Multiplayer Online games), the population tends to be drawn to (like moths to a flame) participating with the larger(est) mass.  It has always been that way, even with multiple LWMAs in AH, most players who came here for a MMO WWII combat sim want to JUST play with most other players in the same arena.

The fundamental idea that one can split up the mass is flawed simpley because the mass doesn't want to be split up.  In AH everyone naturaly gravitates twords the LWMA because it is the largest sandbox and with the biggest/baddest toys.

[bustr]

The LWMA concept is not flawed. It is simplicity taken to an extream allowing players to do almost anything they can dream up as long as they don't attempt to hack the game code or use foul language in the common communications channels.

The ability to equaly wage war at all times with the least number of restrictions other than the actions of players against you and the limitations of your imagination.

To the OP:

What is it you realy want?

About once a year this POST resurrects itself like a zombie that won't die. Each OP rearranges the questionair format but, never can hide it's DNA becasue the "question" wants to go down the same rabbit hole each time.

How can "we" change this game so it will be more interesting to "me" the OP?

To you the OP I ask why don't you like unrestricted freedom to do near anything you can dream up in that arena?

It's never a discussion about changing the WW1, AvA, DA or Special Scenario arenas and what happens in them. It's always how to impose something into the Aces High quintessential "free for all" MA arena. The resultant change each OP over the years presents to us, either as the body of his initial POST or after a "Billy Mays" buildup to reel in the marks. Always imposes some form of pendantic order, rollplaying or complex stick and carrots under the guise of a strategoist two protagonist world view. At least this time the additional strategy of dragging in references to the competition's current offerings like a veiled marketing shill hasen't surfaced.

So,

Without abusing the audience's proclevities further to kvetch about the game in this forum adfinitum to sucker them into your sales pitch. Answer your own question so your audience knows how they are getting used by you and let them off your hook.

How can "I" change this game so it will be more interesting to "me" the OP?

[Tinkles]

The LWMA concept is not flawed. It is simplicity taken to an extream allowing players to do almost anything they can dream up as long as they don't attempt to hack the game code or use foul language in the common communications channels.

The ability to equaly wage war at all times with the least number of restrictions other than the actions of players against you and the limitations of your imagination.

To the OP:

What is it you realy want?

About once a year this POST resurrects itself like a zombie that won't die. Each OP rearranges the questionair format but, never can hide it's DNA becasue the "question" wants to go down the same rabbit hole each time.

How can "we" change this game so it will be more interesting to "me" the OP?

To you the OP I ask why don't you like unrestricted freedom to do near anything you can dream up in that arena?

It's never a discussion about changing the WW1, AvA, DA or Special Scenario arenas and what happens in them. It's always how to impose something into the Aces High quintessential "free for all" MA arena. The resultant change each OP over the years presents to us, either as the body of his initial POST or after a "Billy Mays" buildup to reel in the marks. Always imposes some form of pendantic order, rollplaying or complex stick and carrots under the guise of a strategoist two protagonist world view. At least this time the additional strategy of dragging in references to the competition's current offerings like a veiled marketing shill hasen't surfaced.

So,

Without abusing the audience's proclevities further to kvetch about the game in this forum adfinitum to sucker them into your sales pitch. Answer your own question so your audience knows how they are getting used by you and let them off your hook.

How can "I" change this game so it will be more interesting to "me" the OP?

 

Oook.

    

[RotBaron]

I'm new and fly the LWMA because that is where I can learn the most. If everyone were in the EW or MW that's where I'd be. However, if it were fairly split up I don't think I would have much of a preference.

At this point I'm trying to focus on a few of the Lw aircraft. In almost all things I tend toward the underdog, so I don't mind being beaten up by superior aircraft. Hopefully in the long run, the pain I'm enduring here in Fw's and Me's is going to pay off in skill later, or is there a flaw in that approach? 

[RTHolmes]

Uhh...  Guys.   

Re: Life for AH beyond the Late War Arena?

Without massive infusion of new blood into this game from the marketing department of HiTech Creations, LW Arena will be the last battlefield of the aerial warfare in the virtual skies.

With that new blood, many dedicated players must be brought forth to augment existing squads and form new squads plus participation in Special Events for Aces High to continue.

all true, especially the bolded part. as a squad we dont actively recruit, but we still take on a new guy or two every month and make a real effort to bring them up to scratch in all aspects of the game.

we players dont have much influence over the product which attracts players in the first place, but we do have a big influence on their gaming experience and consequently retaining the new players.

[Ack-Ack]

At this point I'm trying to focus on a few of the Lw aircraft. In almost all things I tend toward the underdog, so I don't mind being beaten up by superior aircraft. Hopefully in the long run, the pain I'm enduring here in Fw's and Me's is going to pay off in skill later, or is there a flaw in that approach? 

The only flaw in your approach is that it tends to increase the learning curve for new players.

ack-ack

[The Fugitive]

Im still waiting for the big reveal.   

[bustr]

Hey!! You sure you wanna see a man take his nikkers off??

I think I'd rather start another FW190-A8 thread with Krusty............

[Babalonian]

Hey!! You sure you wanna see a man take his nikkers off??

I think I'd rather start another FW190-A8 thread with Krusty............

Plase, don't, everytime we make one that A9 and D-11/13 gets pushed back on "the list".       

I'm new and fly the LWMA because that is where I can learn the most. If everyone were in the EW or MW that's where I'd be. However, if it were fairly split up I don't think I would have much of a preference.

At this point I'm trying to focus on a few of the Lw aircraft. In almost all things I tend toward the underdog, so I don't mind being beaten up by superior aircraft. Hopefully in the long run, the pain I'm enduring here in Fw's and Me's is going to pay off in skill later, or is there a flaw in that approach? 

Only flaw is that it may take you longer to understand, learn and then utilise each of their unique strengths and weaknesses.  You're avoiding some of that though by engaging and seeking more experienced players for advise or suggestions.  Ontop of the rides you're learning to fly in combat with, you may have some trouble learning relative basics and ACM that you can learn easier in other rides but really isn't dependent on the plane you fly so much.  Most people know what a barrel roll is, but if you're not familiar with the definition of a high yo-yo, lag/point/lead persuit, or the single-most difference between a half-cuban-8 and an immelman - then go through Rolex's basic ACM films or if possible one of his regular ACM training clinics or just ask one of the patient and outgoing AH Trainers for a session with them (you can find them in the training arena or forum).

[Hazard69]

the thing of it is, people make the mistake and think AH is a WW2 combat sim, which it is NOT, it is a combat sim using WW2 tools....we DO NOT replay WW2 we have special events for that...the MA is a giant sandbox, for combat, and the only thing wrong with it is........


wait for it



NOTHING


it is the players that ruin it(not that I think it is ruined I for the most part very much enjoy flying the MA), players that think it is a WW2 sim and think that staying alive is more important then the fight, so they fly very timid....it is sad really

Heh, I would say that the fact that people don't worry about dieing and pull ridiculous suicidal runs is whats wrong with it....but hey, that's me. To each his own is what I say. So yes, I will fly with the intention of bringing my plane back to base at the end of my flight. Even if that means limping back on a single engine, ditching it in friendly territory, disengaging when the horde drops in etc.etc.etc.
Its how I would like to play it, so I will. You are free to play as you would....

Oh and as for the OP, I think its just the fact that LW offers the most in equipment/aircraft that most people fly there. Then because most people are in there, the others looking for a fight will also jump in there.

A rolling plane set might actually prove detrimental to game-play since most people will find something else to do while they wait for the day 'their' favorite era spawns in the arena.

[titanic3]

Heh, I would say that the fact that people don't worry about dieing and pull ridiculous suicidal runs is whats wrong with it....but hey, that's me. To each his own is what I say. So yes, I will fly with the intention of bringing my plane back to base at the end of my flight. Even if that means limping back on a single engine, ditching it in friendly territory, disengaging when the horde drops in etc.etc.etc.
Its how I would like to play it, so I will. You are free to play as you would....

Oh and as for the OP, I think its just the fact that LW offers the most in equipment/aircraft that most people fly there. Then because most people are in there, the others looking for a fight will also jump in there.

A rolling plane set might actually prove detrimental to game-play since most people will find something else to do while they wait for the day 'their' favorite era spawns in the arena.

Curious, do you play other games? Do you sit in one corner for the entire duration so you don't die? Because that's exactly what I see people do in AH. Sit at 20K and hope you don't die.