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Hostess closing down
« on: November 16, 2012, 07:59:52 AM »
NOOOOOO! No more Ding Dongs, snacks, and possibly Zingers.  :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry
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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2012, 08:08:28 AM »



        I DOn't Believe thAt MAny know or CARE why.
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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2012, 08:08:53 AM »
WHAT?!?! :O
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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2012, 08:10:22 AM »
The brand is too valuable.   Someone will buy them and restart production, imho. :pray


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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2012, 08:26:14 AM »
Erhhhhmmmaaaagggaaaaadddddd!!!!! Twinkies!!!!!!!!!!!  :cry

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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2012, 08:47:52 AM »
They screwed up the creamy centers 30 years ago or more when they took sugar out and replaced it with some artificial synthetic crap.  Good riddance to fake crap.
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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 09:04:01 AM »
They screwed up the creamy centers 30 years ago or more when they took sugar out and replaced it with some artificial synthetic crap.  Good riddance to fake crap.

Google "US sugar tariff".  Companies/consumers in the US pay nearly twice the world market rate for sugar cane sugar because of the US sugar tariff.  In order to compete US companies are forced to use corn syrup or beet sugar.  This is the reason why many candy makers (Life Savers, Lemonheads, etc) have moved production to Canada.  Another reason why I despise the US farming lobbyists. 

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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2012, 09:10:04 AM »
WTFG Union members! 

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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2012, 09:21:09 AM »


        I DOn't Believe thAt MAny know or CARE why.

It has virtually nothing to do with ObamaCare.  But I'm sure people will fingerpoint at their own usual suspects, and in this case chances are they'll be at least partially right.  There's plenty of blame to go around.

http://management.fortune.cnn.com/tag/gregory-rayburn/

I'm no exception; I note from the story how the unions made substantial concessions (thousands of jobs, and millions in benefits) to help Hostess return from bankruptcy in 2009; a while later, then-CEO Brian Driscoll tried to negotiate a $1.5 million base annual salary with a guaranteed $1.95 million if the company failed or if he was fired.   The unions raised a stink about it and Driscoll ended up leaving anyway, but new CEO, Greg Rayburn, got the same $1.5 million salary.   And during the summer of 2011, as the company's financial situation was crumbling, the top four Hostess execs each received raises of up to 80%.   What lousy leadership.    And the fleecing that goes on in the name of outside consulting and "advisory services" makes me sick to my stomach.

It's all  in the linked story.  It just seems like a trainwreck.   IMO the big losers are the small guys - the workers who lost their jobs, and the retirees whose defined benefit plan has been underfunded.  




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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2012, 09:40:04 AM »
We should be exporting huge amounts of yummy junk food to china.

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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2012, 09:46:12 AM »
It has virtually nothing to do with ObamaCare.  But I'm sure people will fingerpoint at their own usual suspects, and in this case chances are they'll be at least partially right.  There's plenty of blame to go around.

http://management.fortune.cnn.com/tag/gregory-rayburn/

I'm no exception; I note from the story how the unions made substantial concessions (thousands of jobs, and millions in benefits) to help Hostess return from bankruptcy in 2009; a while later, then-CEO Brian Driscoll tried to negotiate a $1.5 million base annual salary with a guaranteed $1.95 million if the company failed or if he was fired.   The unions raised a stink about it and Driscoll ended up leaving anyway, but new CEO, Greg Rayburn, got the same $1.5 million salary.   And during the summer of 2011, as the company's financial situation was crumbling, the top four Hostess execs each received raises of up to 80%.   What lousy leadership.    And the fleecing that goes on in the name of outside consulting and "advisory services" makes me sick to my stomach.

It's all  in the linked story.  It just seems like a trainwreck.   IMO the big losers are the small guys - the workers who lost their jobs, and the retirees whose defined benefit plan has been underfunded.  





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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2012, 10:41:21 AM »
Engaging, quoting, or any other type of politcal rhetoric will get you suspended from this board.  Three, so far.

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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2012, 11:07:44 AM »
Engaging, quoting, or any other type of politcal rhetoric will get you suspended from this board.  Three, so far.

If you cannot respect the forum posting rules, do not expect to get a twinkie for it.

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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2012, 11:31:03 AM »
 :noid its a sign that the end is near Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oo(takes a breath)
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo. You get the point  :D
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Re: Hostess closing down
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2012, 12:23:44 PM »
Don't be so quick to blame it all on the unions. They were asked to take a hefty pay cut after Corporate got a hefty raise. Teamsters went along with the concessions, the Baker's union didn't. If the company hadn't been mismanaged so badly and wound up in bankruptcy, the contract would never have been an issue. There is plenty of blame to be spread around for all concerned.

Twinkies won't be going anywhere...
The brand is too valuable.   Someone will buy them and restart production, imho. :pray
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