Rock you like a Hurricane!

[Babalonian]

The Seahurri IIc where modified to fire rockets but only used them, as far I could tell with the 25lb Solid shot head. The S/S where designed to punch through and sink shipping.

On top of that the rockets caused alot of drag and many hurris had their  20mm guns reduced to 2 or removed altogether to gain back some performance.

Too bad the 2-cannon option is probabley a field mod and there's no testing data on it, or am I mistaken?

[Butcher]

Too bad the 2-cannon option is probabley a field mod and there's no testing data on it, or am I mistaken?

Its a field mod, out the factory they had 4x 20mm cannons, pilots choice probably.

[-aper-]

2 x 20mm Shvak + 2 x 12,7 mm UB + 6x RS-82 - standard Hurricane's armament in Russia from 1942. All rearmed at Factory #81

[Fish42]

2 x 20mm Shvak + 2 x 12,7 mm UB + 6x RS-82 - standard Hurricane's armament in Russia from 1942. All rearmed at Factory #81

They were factory then, nice. I have  seen pictures of rearmed Hurris, but was not sure if they where field modded.

Then again its hard to tell what was normal over there, as I have seen hurricanes modded to have a tail gunner  .

"During WW II, several Hawker Hurricanes were delivered to the Soviet Union, and were subject to numerous modifications, some rather far-going. In one of the modified batches the Hurricanes were equipped with additional post for a rear gunner with a ShKAS machine gun. These aircraft were used for long range artillery spotting. The gunner was also a spotter to correct the artillery fire. In order to facilitate his task, a port was cut out in the bottom of the aeroplane. Some 20 aircraft were converted that way. They flew in Leningrad, Volkhov, Kalinin Fronts."

[Bino]

Sea Hurricanes in the Mediterranean!  w00t!!!

[ACE]

Awaiting Tank-Ace to argue with butcher..

[Babalonian]

2 x 20mm Shvak + 2 x 12,7 mm UB + 6x RS-82 - standard Hurricane's armament in Russia from 1942. All rearmed at Factory #81

Hmmmmmmm...... very interesting.    

[Nathan60]

Hmmmmmmm...... very interesting.    

Yeah that would be fun to fly.

[Ack-Ack]

Hmmmmmmm...... very interesting.    

The Soviets removed most of the .303 guns and replaced them with either two 12.7 mm Berezin UBs and/or two or even four 20 mm ShVAK cannons because of the low hitting power of the .303s.  The result was decreased performance due to the addition of the Soviet guns.

ack-ack

[-aper-]

The Soviets removed most of the .303 guns and replaced them with either two 12.7 mm Berezin UBs and/or two or even four 20 mm ShVAK cannons because of the low hitting power of the .303s.  The result was decreased performance due to the addition of the Soviet guns.

ack-ack

4 x12,7 UB was early field mod. 4x20 mm Shvak was a rare factory mod for HurricaneIIC .

The result was decreased performance due to the addition of the Soviet guns.

20mm Shvak and 12,7 mm UB fitted well in the wings and did not decrease perfomance. RS-82 rockets decreased speed slightly.
The most performance decrease was with additional 2 x100 Kg bombs:

[EagleDNY]

Love the addition of the Sea Hurri.  I can see why they left the rockets option off as they really were for antisubmarine use only. 

 

[Nathan60]

Love the addition of the Sea Hurri.  I can see why they left the rockets option off as they really were for antisubmarine use only.  

 

HT alreay asked for help modeling troops for A (possible)FPS portion to the game and we all KNOW he wants subs....  

[Greebo]

Love the addition of the Sea Hurri.  I can see why they left the rockets option off as they really were for antisubmarine use only. 

IIRC the rockets were only used on the Sea Hurricane Mk IIC and ours is a Mk IB/C.

[Tilt]

20mm Shvak and 12,7 mm UB fitted well in the wings and did not decrease performance. RS-82 rockets decreased speed slightly.
The most performance decrease was with additional 2 x100 Kg bombs:

The refit also included the fitting of seat armour (as used in the Lagg3).

It would be nice to see the Hurr IIb with the 2 x Shvak and 2 x 12.7. The refit was carried out in Moscow against freshly delivered aircraft. Although they were not always new aircraft, they would be a mix of de commissioned and production surplus (that the RAF now replaced with later models). However they were delivered in boxes and had to be partially re assembled.

Igor Kaberov's memoirs (Russian naval pilot 41 to 43) do not fondly remember the Hurricane. He transitioned to it in  from a Yak1 and then onto a late Lagg3 (both he claims with VK105PF engines). He considered both the Russian air craft superior in speed and handling with the Yak the "lightest" and most responsive of them all. However he viewed the Hurricane as vastly superior in firepower and very stable with good resistance to enemy fire. He also commented on the vastly superior radio.

[-aper-]

The refit also included the fitting of seat armour (as used in the Lagg3).

It would be nice to see the Hurr IIb with the 2 x Shvak and 2 x 12.7. The refit was carried out in Moscow against freshly delivered aircraft. Although they were not always new aircraft, they would be a mix of de commissioned and production surplus (that the RAF now replaced with later models). However they were delivered in boxes and had to be partially re assembled.

Igor Kaberov's memoirs (Russian naval pilot 41 to 43) do not fondly remember the Hurricane. He transitioned to it in  from a Yak1 and then onto a late Lagg3 (both he claims with VK105PF engines). He considered both the Russian air craft superior in speed and handling with the Yak the "lightest" and most responsive of them all. However he viewed the Hurricane as vastly superior in firepower and very stable with good resistance to enemy fire. He also commented on the vastly superior radio.

As far as I remember Kaberov's book he flew I-16 (summer 1941), LaGG-3 (end of 1941), Yak-1 (early 1942), Hurricane (mid 1942), LaGG-3 (early 1943), La-5 (mid 1943).
He did not like Hurricanes due to lack of speed, very poor diving abilities, and limited vertical performance, but appreciated the armament 2 x 20mm and 2 x 12,7 mm guns and good radio/instrumental equipment.

Another interesting book was written by A.Kozhevnikov. Their squad received Hurricanes in mid 1942. After I-16 the first impression of Hurricane was:
"This plane has a big inertia and quite heavy on stick and controls... but it is maneuverable."
Kozhevnikov scored 4 victories flying Hurricane (Me-109, MC.200, 2 x Ju-88). In mid 1943 their squad was reequipped to Yak-7b. He considered Yak-7b much better plane than Hurricane.