Kills of P51s

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You are the one claiming that. Not me. That's just what you put into other peoples words. That's what I meant with "oversimplifying",  there's only black and white.  If someone states that he might use his plane's speed instead of continuing to turn with one or several oppomnents superior at that trait, he is automatically "running to his friends. There can be NO other option, it MUST be that way.

 

when you hit the deck running and don't try to regain ALT or position......its running no matter how you try to spin it...if someone is using his speed to BnZ......... that is fighting.....never have I said one must be "turning" to be fighting.....

[Lusche]

I have two options now: Repeating my last statement or being speechless in the face of ignorance.

I choose the latter one.  

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first off

second off.......Tupac said ------>When I fly the P51 I fight in it. It usually surprises people an you can get the upper hand. If things aren't going my way though I can put the nose down and boogie.

Karnak quoted Tupac and said------> See, that isn't really fighting then.

You disagreed

I disagreed with you

if he puts his nose down to "boogie" IE get out of dodge....to disengage the con he was fighting....what the hell is he doing then....if not running......

let me hear your ingeniousness way of describing running for something that is the exact opposite.....

your insults are noted BTW 
 

[Lusche]

your insults are noted BTW 
 

oh noez. 

Can you send me a copy of said notes for my archive? 

[Karnak]

I shouldn't have said that it isn't fighting, as it clearly is, but it is also just the ho-hum standard P-51D behavior we see from the majority of P-51Ds.  I may be in error, but it seemed that with his first sentence Tupac was trying to sell himself as somebody who flew the P-51D differently from the majority and that he was aggressive in it.  That may be true, but his second sentence undermined that and makes it seem like he is just a normal, running P-51D player.

[The Fugitive]

Yup....As aggravating as it is. I've never flown a 51, but it seems a smart move to me. Why stay and fight when you lose the advantage. Disengage then re-engage when it's more advantageous. I fly a spit XVI, when I get into a turning fight with a Brew or Zeke and lose my advantage I disengage and come back in. Why stick around?

If you hold all the cards why fight? Whats the fun if you go into a fight with all the advantages KNOWING that you can't lose? The other side of that coin is staying in a fight even knowing your at a DISadvantage and sticking it out to see if you CAN beat the other guy. You give the other guy all the advantages and still turn the tables on him and win. How much more fun could it be? 

[CZCH64]

If you hold all the cards why fight? Whats the fun if you go into a fight with all the advantages KNOWING that you can't lose? The other side of that coin is staying in a fight even knowing your at a DISadvantage and sticking it out to see if you CAN beat the other guy. You give the other guy all the advantages and still turn the tables on him and win. How much more fun could it be? 

I can see your first point. The second point is pretty cool when it happens. For me the best is when your on the deck already shot up pretty good and limping home, then the guy comes in to finish you off, you chop throttle and nail him on the way by as he over shoots...lol.

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oh noez. 

Can you send me a copy of said notes for my archive? 

noted in my mind

so I guess you are right snailboy.....he is "fighting" to get away

   

I shouldn't have said that it isn't fighting, as it clearly is, but it is also just the ho-hum standard P-51D behavior we see from the majority of P-51Ds.  I may be in error, but it seemed that with his first sentence Tupac was trying to sell himself as somebody who flew the P-51D differently from the majority and that he was aggressive in it.  That may be true, but his second sentence undermined that and makes it seem like he is just a normal, running P-51D player.

ya "fighting to get away"




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Love how people come up with excuses to make their lame game play Ok in their mind.

[titanic3]

My golden rules for running:

1. No ammo
2. No fuel
3. Pilot wounded
4. Half a wing/guns shot out
5. 10 v 1 (or more)

That is, if I'm in a faster plane. If I'm in a slower plane and know I'll be caught, I'll go down fighting.  

If only everyone followed these rules, oh the fun people like me and ink would have. 

[ink]

My golden rules for running:

1. No ammo
2. No fuel
3. Pilot wounded
4. Half a wing/guns shot out
5. 10 v 1 (or more)

That is, if I'm in a faster plane. If I'm in a slower plane and know I'll be caught, I'll go down fighting.  

If only everyone followed these rules, oh the fun people like me and ink would have. 

I agree and follow everything but #5   

you are right though imagine if everyone actually fought.......the wife would hate it...I wouldn't want to stop playing 

there are a bunch that fight no matter what.......,in the context of this game they are the ones that get the most respect from me.......sadly there are far more who think they "fight".......but will tuck tail and run as soon as they lose advantage........... or the possibility of their cartoon dieing......they will be the 6th 7th 8th friendly con in on that one red con........and then there are the Vulchers the ones that by pass red cons to shoot at the guys taking off or landing.....I dont care who you are...that is the lamest "fighting" to do in AH.



let me guess snailboy you must think Vulching is fighting too..........

[BigR]

  Nothing made up about it, you engaged,I reversed and got behind you,and you went nose down and ran to friends.
   I have no reason to make it up,just the fact of the matter is you are just as guilty as the next pony pilot for tucking tail and running when you start to lose a fight.

   

Lets see the film.

[ACE]

51 was one of my favs for turning.  People never expected it.  She is one tough plane to do tricks with slow! 

[CZCH64]

and then there are the Vulchers the ones that by pass red cons to shoot at the guys taking off or landing.....I dont care who you are...that is the lamest "fighting" to do in AH.

I agree with the taking off vulching as lame (though I can't say I've never done it). But if your fighting within sight of a base and you shoot a guy up after which he tries to make it back to land, I have no problem with shooting him up as he is hitting the runway. Actually on second thought I would consider anyone landing pretty much fair game. As he is/was already part of the action.

[Getback]

Make that 27 p51s and 27 different pilots. Partly that's because I jumped sides.

[Nathan60]

Where is the honor is expecting a plane that lost it advantage to fight to your planes advantage?


Also Ink Id like to hear you opinion on this  
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,342208.0.html